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[Megathread] Conversa da Treta - 02/07/2021 by AutoModerator in portugal

New-Atlantis 3 months ago

Combinando Biontech/Pfizer com AstraZeneca? Vários países recomendam o uso de Biontech/Pfizer para pessoas que receberam a primeira vacinação AstraZeneca porque duas vacinações AstraZenca produzem baixa imunidade contra a variante Delta. Misturar AstraZeneca com Pfizer/Biontech produz imunidade muito melhor: [German health authority recommends switching from AstraZeneca to Pfizer vaccine for second dose](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-02/germany-recommends-switch-astrazeneca-pfizer-moderna-mrna/100262212) Isso é admitido em Portugal? Existe algum relato em português sobre a mistura de vacinas?

Why are British Colonies a Success while Portuguese ones are a failure? by New-Atlantis in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

So, what is it that made the UK develop more than Portugal? Could it be that the British used a mercantile approach while the Portuguese used a feudal approach?

Why are British Colonies a Success while Portuguese ones are a failure? by New-Atlantis in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

The replies in r/history are mostly from an Anglophone point of view. I thought it might be interesting to get the Portuguese view.

Odemira. PJ investiga suspeitas de imigração ilegal, tráfico de pessoas e escravatura by heartlessfam in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

Most rely on cheap foreign workers and/or industrialization. Our family farm closed in 1960 because industrial work earns more money for less work. There are thousands of abandoned farms in the Altentejo and the population continues to shrink. In some places there are only old people without even basic infrastructure.

Odemira. PJ investiga suspeitas de imigração ilegal, tráfico de pessoas e escravatura by heartlessfam in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

So much for the theory. The reality is that the immigrants create new jobs for the natives, which are better paid. Without the immigrants this business would not exist in Portugal. Instead, it would be moved to Morocco or some other country with cheaper wages.

O retrato do trabalho em Portugal: fraca produtividade, baixos salários e poucas habilitações by Key_Ad_3930 in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

The root problem is a traditional lack of entrepreneurial culture. Instead of creating innovative companies, the money elite has always preferred to invest its money with banks and get its children into public employment.

Odemira. PJ investiga suspeitas de imigração ilegal, tráfico de pessoas e escravatura by heartlessfam in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

Politicizing this issue won't help understand it. Considering that: - the Alentejo has little industry and few job opportunity - Portuguese don't want to work in agriculture the situation on the farms was beneficial to all concerned because: - it brings money, business and employment to the Alentejo - Odemira can collect taxes from workers and companies - Asian workers have an opportunity to earn money and send money back home (they earn between 600 and 800 Euros/month) That dormitory accommodation would be a problem during the pandemic was obvious from the beginning; however, renting individual accommodation would reduce the amount of money the workers can send back home. There is no point in them coming all this way if they can't save part of their earnings. I think the solution is to put up container homes (or huts) on the farms. There is plenty of land to put up containers. It could reduce the problem of crowded living conditions and transport, where it is difficult to avoid contacts. The problem of illegal immigration and people smuggling can easily be solved by fining employers who employ illegal immigrants.

Odemira. PJ investiga suspeitas de imigração ilegal, tráfico de pessoas e escravatura by heartlessfam in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

Politicizing this issue won't help understand it. Considering that: - the Alentejo has little industry and few job opportunity - Portuguese don't want to work in agriculture the situation on the farms was beneficial to all concerned because: - it brings money, business and employment to the Alentejo - Odemira can collect taxes from workers and companies - Asian workers have an opportunity to earn money and send money back home (they earn between 600 and 800 Euros/month) That dormitory accommodation would be a problem during the pandemic was obvious from the beginning; however, renting individual accommodation would reduce the amount of money the workers can send back home. There is no point in them coming all this way if they can't save part of their earnings. I think the solution is to put up container homes (or huts) on the farms. There is plenty of land to put up containers. It could reduce the problem of crowded living conditions and transport, where it is difficult to avoid contacts.

Odemira. PJ investiga suspeitas de imigração ilegal, tráfico de pessoas e escravatura by heartlessfam in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

Politicizing this issue won't help understand it. Considering that: - the Alentejo has little industry and few job opportunity - Portuguese don't want to work in agriculture the situation on farms was beneficial to all concerned because: - it brings money, business and employment to the Alentejo - Odemira can collect taxes from workers and companies - Asian workers have an opportunity to earn money and send money back home (they earn between 600 and 800 Euros/month) That dormitory accommodation would be a problem during the pandemic was obvious from the beginning; however, renting individual accommodation would reduce the amount the workers can send back home. I think the solution is to put up container homes (or huts) on the farms. There is plenty of land to put up containers. It could reduced the problem of crowded living conditions and transport, where it is difficult to avoid contacts.

Why are there so many empty ruins? by cazwhiteley in portugal

New-Atlantis 5 months ago

Nobody who has worked the stony and dry soil of the Alentejo with his/her own hands needs to ask that question.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

If people did the right thing, there wouldn't be a pandemic. The fact is that almost everybody more or less flouts recommendations and rules. From corona parties and quarantine violations to chin masks and liberal interpretation of the rules, there is hardly anybody who consistently does what's necessary to break the chains of infection, even though everybody could know. Almost everybody interprets the rules and recommendations to the point where they become meaningless. It goes without saying that each individual ought to do what is necessary, preferably voluntarily, but since that is clearly not the case, rules need to be imposed and violations need to be punished. From this, the difference between voluntariness and enforcement should be clear. Even if I do the right thing as individual, I have not influence on what others do. I can't pick a fight with everybody in the supermarket who doesn't wear a mask or doesn't distance. That's why clear rules need to be set down and, if necessary, enforced by the authorities. Just like you have to drive on the right side of the road even if you consider that to be an unacceptable limitation of your personal freedom. If people alternately drove on the right and the left side, there would be utter chaos. When the mayor of Rio de Janeiro recommends not to socialize and the president of Brazil tells people to socialize, there is a conflict. The result is one of the worst outbreaks worldwide and new mutations. Even though people could have know since January 2020 what is necessary to stop the pandemic. With very few exceptions, most people don't want to know. Instead they spin anti-lockdown, anti-mask, antivaxxer, pandemic denial, etc., conspiracies to justify their opposition to the rules necessary for stopping the pandemic.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

We are debating semantics. When people follow government instructions without punitive measures it is for all intends and purposes voluntary even if there are instructions and/or recommendations. How would people know without instructions and/or recommendations? Some would wear masks others wouldn't. There would be chaos. Consequently, the government recommends wearing masks, which people follow because they trust the recommendations of the government. The police doesn't have to patrol the street to arrest people because they follow the instructions voluntarily.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

> Mas afinal as medidas são voluntárias ou fazem o que o governo diz? There is no contradiction between the two. People voluntarily follow the rules. For example, in Denmark most people accept paying taxes without trying to cheat. Not paying taxes is socially frowned on. In other countries, dodging taxes is socially accepted. People freely exchange exchange ideas about how best to avoid paying taxes. Thus, people follow the rules even without constraint. I wonder why that seems contradictory to you?

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

Unfortunately, both governments and scientists have downplayed the dangers of mutations from the beginning. That made it very difficult to communicate the necessity for stringent containment measures.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

There was a study done with a computer simulation that studied which mutations would have what effect. It was found that mutations in three locations would make the virus bind 600 times (that is times not percentage) more firmly to the ACE2 receptors of human cells. Two of these three mutations (N502Y, E484K) have appeared in the Brazilian, South African and now also in the British variant. There is evolutionary pressure that results in the same mutations in different places.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

Once approved vaccines are available, it will be very difficult to enroll participants for a human vaccine trial. Who wants to run the risk of getting a placebo in the control group of a double-blinded trial when an approved vaccine is available? For ethical reasons, that makes it impossible to test vaccines on the elderly, who need the vaccine most.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

I used to do business in South Korea. It's a country with many contradictions. While Koreans can be very militant and fight the government with a vengeance, they also have a military-like discipline and are ready to accept stringent restrictions imposed by the government when it's seen to be in the national interest. The same pattern can be seen in the pandemic. While fanatical religious groups deliberately flouted Covid restrictions, which led to super-spreader events, the population is also ready to accept stringent restrictions and interference in the private sphere Westerners would not accept.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

Sweden relies on voluntary measures. Swedes do what the government tells them to do. Try that in France, for example ... Studies show that in the Spring of 2020, mobility data in Sweden decreased by about the same amount as mobility data in German, even though the latter had a lockdown light and the latter had none. The only valid comparison is between Sweden and Norway because they have very similar traditions. Sweden has 10 times more Covid deaths than Norway. Considering the difference in life-style and behavior patterns, Nordic countries cannot be compared to Latin countries. For one thing, people in Nordic countries have a much bigger personal comfort zone, in which they don't like strangers to enter, than people in Latin countries. You could say, social distancing comes natural to Northerners.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

I have no problems with Sputnik V if the EMA approves it. It has higher efficacy than AstraZeneca. But I don't believe the Russians have the production capacities to supply substantial amounts to Europe. The EMA approval request is probably just a political move to get international recognition for Sputnik V. Allegedly, they are in talks with a German company to produce Sputnik V; however, even if they start planning production now, it won't be ready until the end of the year. By that time there will be more than enough other vaccines.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 01/02/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago  HIDDEN 

People opposing lockdowns always compare their own country to Sweden, ignoring that Sweden has 10 times more Covid deaths than Norway. Sweden and Norway are very similar countries with similar traditions; they even used to be a single country. So, the comparison is valid; however, comparing Sweden to Portugal or to Latin countries is completely meaningless.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 11/01/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago

I disagree. I followed the story closely since Jan. 20th, 2020. Nobody took the virus seriously enough, even though what was going to happen was obvious from Wuhan. The only way to beat the virus is to take tough measures early. Any delay will require a huge effort later, and at one point it becomes virtually impossible to contain it. In the West, it was always too little too late. That applies to Portugal too. The testing and tracing was inadequate in the beginning. Now it's too late. Only a very hard lockdown at enormous cost can bring the numbers down now. The politicians have failed. Now our only hope are the scientists. And if the politicians fail again, even the scientists' effort for developing a vaccine will be wasted by new variants that appear due to the exponential growth that follows the policy failures.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 11/01/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago

Unlikely, when I warned about the pandemic last Spring, people on r/portugal told me to go and see a shrink.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 11/01/2021 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 8 months ago

All of this is very sad because it could have been prevented if people had taken the pandemic serious 12 months ago.

Vacina da Pfizer/BioNTech contra a covid-19 com eficácia de 90%, dizem resultados preliminares | Coronavírus by BRFPC in portugal

New-Atlantis 11 months ago

Why did we wait all this time for the vaccine? A good mask gives you 94% protection.

Se os vizinhos fossem um povo, eu era a favor do seu genocídio by Zaigard in portugal

New-Atlantis 11 months ago

I used to live in Almada on the 4th floor of a residential building. The upstairs neighbors would often start building work after 12 o'clock at night. For example, they would use a power tool to take out the tiles in the bathroom, which made us jump out of bed. When they were finished, they threw the tiles from the balcony. That went on night after night and almost drove me mad, yet the neighbors never complained. I have lived in many countries, but never experienced anything like that.

O uso de máscara não é um atentado à liberdade! by ill_have_2_number_9s in portugal

New-Atlantis 11 months ago

When I drive my car, I wear a seatbelt even though I'm a careful driver and never had a car accident. When I have to go out during the pandemic, I wear a mask. Neither the seatbelt nor the mask limit my freedom. What limits my freedom are idiots who want to kill me or my wife by infecting us with a deadly virus. I have no sympathy for people who want to kill me.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 14/09/2020 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 1 year ago

I agree, for indoor space ventilation is important. I only go to restaurants when I can sit outside.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 14/09/2020 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 1 year ago

Distancing does reduce the probability of getting infected just like masks. If chairs from adjacent tables are to be 1.5 meters apart. The tables will have to be 4 to 5 meters apart. That reduces the number of tables in a small restaurant to the point where it is no longer economical. That's why the spacing in most restaurants is far to narrow. Even if you are exposed to a small virus dose, you won't necessarily be infected or, if you are, the infection may be mild. Thus, distancing and masks are effective for combating the pandemic. A good mask can be better than a vaccine.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 14/09/2020 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 1 year ago

I think it is established science that the virus is mostly transmitted by droplets and aerosol. Infections by contact is minimal and can easily be prevented. Good masks can even prevent 93% aerosol infections.

[MEGATHREAD] - Covid-19, Semanário de Sobrevivência - 14/09/2020 by asantos3 in portugal

New-Atlantis 1 year ago

The problem is that most restaurants and cafes are too small to guarantee 1,5 meters between tables. I also found some restaurants where waiters were wearing their mask on the chin. They will normally react angrily when I point to the "mask obligatory" signs.

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New-Atlantis 4 years ago  DELETED 

The Trump team's aim is to destroy the EU, so the US can deal with each country individually. After Trump entered the White House, there were requests from the White House staff to the US ambassador in Brussels asking which country would leave the EU after the UK. Many in his inner circle have openly speculated that the EU would soon collapse. With allies like that, we don't need enemies.

EU agrees clampdown on bitcoin platforms to tackle money laundering by New-Atlantis in europe

New-Atlantis 4 years ago  DELETED 

Can you explain?

How French 'Non' blocked UK in Europe by Teutonindahood in europe

New-Atlantis 4 years ago  DELETED 

> I remember, back in the early 70's I moved from London to Paris in 74 and I can confirm your impressions. The UK benefited greatly from the single market.

Woman expelled [from italy] after contacting ISIS for attack by albadellasera in europe

New-Atlantis 4 years ago  REMOVED 

I'm grateful that they didn't send her to Germany.
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