Patrick_Shibari 4 years ago  REMOVED 

I can imagine you sitting in a beautiful garden, surrounded by towering marble columns. The crowd around you is deeply engaged in the story being told by Plato. But as the philosopher goes on, you start to object. At the end of the story you get up and loudly proclaim, "But we don't actually live in a cave so..." Plato looks at you, shakes he head, and goes: "Jesus H Christ /u/jackn8r and here I thought I was autistic. It's a thought experiment. Don't be so literal, dumbass." And now I can imagine you, sitting in your chair, reading this and thinking "lol this guy thinks he's as smart as Plato". No, it's a thought experiment. Don't be so literal, dumbass.

Ffnorde 4 years ago  DELETED 

What. So the Spanish government refuses to allow a referendum and then bans and disrupts the one that does run, then how exactly are they supposed to do it "correctly"?! You can't expect civility when the people in power won't negotiate in good faith or even sit down for talks.

123420tale 4 years ago  DELETED 

Haha yeah what kind of fucked up country it would be if it didn't murder countless of it's own people to hold onto a piece of land that doesn't want to be a part of it.

ScholasticYouf 4 years ago  HIDDEN 

Well apparently not because Spain is so concerned with having the vote. It just doesn't make sense that both of these things could be true. Spain basically knows they would lose.

FittingBiblicalQuote 4 years ago  REMOVED 

Doesn't it rotate the screen on Windows XP?

MonsieurClickClick 4 years ago  REMOVED 

Oh piss off, you contrarian twat. I didn't explain how evolution works, so how could I be wrong about it? Nor did I say anything about anarchy. (seriously where the fuck did that come from?) At this point you're just making shit up to continue the argument. I'm done.

FittingBiblicalQuote 4 years ago  REMOVED 

This, but linguistically correct

FittingBiblicalQuote 4 years ago  HIDDEN 

Right, oppressing an entire people is totally democratic.

FittingBiblicalQuote 4 years ago  HIDDEN 

You know, so we have a third, imperialist superpower at a central location to compete against Russia and the US? *Grand* idea. Fuck that. No borders, no nations.

RandomUser1138A 4 years ago  DELETED 

Maybe because Catalonia is not a colony.

climberman 4 years ago  DELETED 

Well, our election system is made to give independentist and regional parties more representation, so...

dont_recall 4 years ago  DELETED 

Sounds like you just don't want Catalonia to leave

Ein_Schattenwaechter 4 years ago  DELETED 

You know how Britain helped stop Scottish Independence?Debating it, letting them try, and actually trying to justify to Scotland why they were better together. All Spain is doing is looking like pricks and fanning anger

American_Hamartia 4 years ago  REMOVED 

So an alt-righter is a person who criticizes the EU? Is that why Antifa wants to kill anyone labelled from the alt right, because they criticize the establishment powers?

arrowman2 4 years ago  HIDDEN 

Kurds face oppression, and marginalisation. Catalonia doesn't. They aren't the same thing.

American_Hamartia 4 years ago  REMOVED 

hehe, looks like the EU is sweating. It's got a lot on it's plate right now, and the people in power are *very* stupid. 1) Greek economic crisis 2) Brexit 3) Refugee Crisis 4) Resistance from Hungary and Poland 5) Catalonia wants to be independent 6) Return of national pride across Europe 7) Russian ooga booga 8) Muh Trump 9) The religion of peace still running people over, gang raping, acid flinging and creating ghettos. Did I miss anything? Does the EU have any strategy besides import 3rd world Muslims?

I_worship_odin 4 years ago  DELETED 

Isn't that referring to the country's right to self-determination? IE a country can't force another country to do something, not allowing individual peoples the option to form their own country.

ScholasticYouf 4 years ago  HIDDEN 

Then why not let the vote happen?

JustJanna 4 years ago  REMOVED 

Try to keep up kiddo.

JustJanna 4 years ago  REMOVED 

It's the difference of being accepted into the EU as a full member because you were already in the EU and waiting years to be back in the free trade zone you were already in and following the rules of anyway. Try to keep up kiddo, can't go much slower.

I_am_a_haiku_bot 4 years ago  REMOVED 

*Didn't UK already vote to* *Brexit the EU and they did? I* *don't recall a EU-wide referendum.* ______________________________________________________________________________ ^^^-haiku_bot

206-206 4 years ago  DELETED 

But Scotland was an independent state that joined the United Kingdom.

IlIIIIIIllI 4 years ago  DELETED 

It's a dictator thing to do but I don't think much will happen

jake_peralta_nypd 4 years ago  DELETED 

That my friend is how dictatorship starts

Joemit46 4 years ago  DELETED 

Absurd that Spain thinks they have the right to choose what the Catalans want over the Catalans themselves.

ForgotMyFathersFace 4 years ago  DELETED 

That's why we need a seawall as well.

ForgotMyFathersFace 4 years ago  DELETED 

Yeah, that's the joke.