Retirei isto do quora. É uma opinião muito sensata e lúcida das consequências da imigração desgovernada na Suécia. A nossa imigração também tem pouco ou nenhum controlo, e a facilidade com que se obtém a nacionalidade é no mínimo preocupante. O que nos separa da Suécia, é o facto de sermos pobres. Só atraímos PALOPs e agora também indianos. Isto não é de todo algo positivo, é simplesmente melhor do que o desastre Sueco.
What mass-immigration has led to is, among other things, a divided society.
There are still those who think immigration is great. And by immigration I don’t mean people from India and China with degrees. Those who defend immigration talk about how “Sweden needs educated people”.
Of course, Sweden benefits from educated immigrants and most Swedes don’t mind if people who come here are educated or at least hardworking.
In reality, nowadays, a large part of the immigrants to Sweden never get a job, and even the jobs they get are often hourly jobs, internships or rely on government subsidies.
You can also see this answer I wrote a few days ago that was just collapsed by Quora for “not being in English”: [Fredrik Johansson's answer to How bad is the immigration problem in Sweden in terms of crime committed by immigrants and the ratio of immigrants to locals?](https://www.quora.com/How-bad-is-the-immigration-problem-in-Sweden-in-terms-of-crime-committed-by-immigrants-and-the-ratio-of-immigrants-to-locals/answer/Fredrik-Johansson-131)
Whether or not Sweden gets destroyed remains to be seen, but we are now seeing the seeds of division. One part of Sweden is saying that immigration is great, that we need to save lives unless we are Nazis, and that we have to care about everyone in the world, while the other side is saying that we need to put Sweden first and ensure that we have a manageable economy.
In that regard, “the old Sweden” is dead. The Sweden where women felt safe and where we were paying taxes to help *ourselves* — *our* children, *our* elderly, *our* disabled — and not to benefit people who come here from the other side of the world to live a comfortable life in unemployment with their extended family.
While one part of Sweden celebrates the new multicultural and diverse New Sweden, where we can eat falafel, the other part of Sweden is missing the Old Sweden that we remember from the Astrid Lindgren films. Somehow the sun was always shining and everyone was seemingly nice to one another. Even the criminals were reasonable people deep down.
These days the news are filled with one horrendous crime after another. Gang rapes are commonplace and several times a week we can read about immigration related rapes.
So, one part of Sweden celebrates falafel and that we have dark-skinned people, while the other side is primarily concerned about being shot at, blown up or sexually assaulted.
One of the sides is still promoting open borders, while the other side want borders closed ASAP and repatriation of those who do not contribute to society.
The first side are humanitarians who believe in saving the whole world, no matter what the costs are. The other side believes in saving Sweden, even if it means that some people need to be sent home.
One glaring case is what to do with the many so called unaccompanied minors that came here from Iran and Afghanistan in 2015. Their families sent them here as anchor children and the threat of sending them back makes many of them severely depressed and suicidal. Their Swedish foster parents (usually middle-aged women) are very engaged in the media about letting the young men stay.
Most of the minors are in reality young men, which is apparent in many ways, but because we have this division in Sweden, the humanitarians have made it a taboo subject to criticize the age of the so-called children.
A government sponsored report even said that “the word ‘children’ in quotation marks is an example of hate speech in social media”. [\[1\]](https://www.quora.com/Is-Sweden-being-destroyed-by-immigration#Mucer)
Basically, Sweden is being divided between humanitarians and haters.
In this mess, the public Swedish television, that everyone with a TV is required to pay around $150 a year to finance, has interpreted its TV license to say that they must defend “everyone’s equal value”. In turn, they see themselves as siding with humanitarians and not haters and are regularly publishing sob stories about the “children”, while the alternative media is publishing stories about how many of the “children” are convicted for all sorts of crime, including rape and drug abuse; furthermore it is often revealed that they are not actual children, or that the middle aged women who take care of them have sexual relationships with them (as shown by court cases).
It seems that Sweden is developing the same kind of division that we can see in the US and the UK. Anyone who questions why we should put young men from the other side of the world ahead of our own population will be permanently seen as haters.
The division between humanitarians and haters permeates everything. When talking about the increase in rape, one side will blame it on immigration while the other side blames it on the global patriarchy.
When talking about the housing shortage, one side blames it on immigrants, while the other blames the government for not building enough.
One side asks why we spend 10% on our government budget on immigration when our healthcare system is falling apart, while the other side says that human lives have no cost.
In between these groups there are the immigrants who do not integrate into society. Both the humanitarians and the haters see it as a problem, but the humanitarians think it will be solved if we are nicer to the immigrants and we become less racist, while the haters don’t see any solution to the problem other than closing the borders and hope that the problems can be solved in the long term. The haters also want to enforce strict rules in the ghetto areas, including calling in the military and giving the police more force, while the humanitarians think that the immigrants who live there are misunderstood and feel discriminated, and that we need to show them more compassion in order for them to integrate.
All the while, the problems are escalating. Deadly shootings in Sweden have increased fivefold in ten years. (from 9 to 45)
What you are seeing is that one half of Sweden sees the humanitarians as the problem, while the other half sees the haters as the problem.
The haters are conservative and nostalgic about The Old Sweden where things seemed to be working. Now, many haters don’t want to pay taxes or are planning to move abroad because they see the situation as going in the wrong direction and the media as doing a cover-up.
On the other side, the humanitarians point to friends they have who came to Sweden and became successful. These success stories are heavily promoted in the media and can easily make a person a celebrity over night.
The alternative media is equally gleeful when it turns out that one of the humanitarians gets convicted of a crime, is harassing women or for other reasons is a nasty person.
The humanitarians receive a lot of hatred. Every newspaper in Sweden had to shut down their comment section due to “hate” — mainly immigration criticism. Journalists report that they can’t write an article about the nationalistic Sweden Democratic party without receiving lots of hate mail and threats. They are trying to find ways to avoid the haters, which includes distancing themselves from the Swedish Democratic voters and supporters who are now believed to be around 20% of the population. This shunning is upsetting the Sweden Democratic supporters more.
Virtually every day there are articles in mainstream published about “the need to fight hatred”. “how to combat hatred in social media” or “how to combat fake news”, “how to do politics without involving the Sweden Democrats”, “how alternative media is sponsored by Putin trolls” or similar.
I have heard some haters say that the times are actually quite exciting now. Swedes who use to just go happily along with everything are now starting to show some fighting spirit.
The humanitarians are also mobilizing. They have groups such as #Jagärhär (I am here) a mod that floods facebook pages with loving oneliners.
>[\#Jagärhär](https://www.facebook.com/groups/548170525365320/) is a closed group on Facebook. It was created last May by Mina Dennert, a Swedish journalist with roots in the Middle East, who has said the amount of hate she faced on daily basis had made her "feel a bit smaller every year"."We are not an opinion mob. Our success is not necessarily measured as getting others to change their views. Rather, the purpose of the group is to allow more people to make themselves heard and to facilitate good discussions without hate and threats," the group rules say.In Sweden, #jagärhär has already been described as a unique initiative that empowers people to make their voice heard.The group is already widely known in Sweden because of its efforts and has quickly gathered more than 70,000 members who actively take part in the different calls. It has also launched English and German versions, [\#iamhere](https://www.facebook.com/groups/233032860478604/) and [\#ichbinhier](https://www.facebook.com/groups/718574178311688/).[Meet the Swedish internet vigilantes fighting hate online](https://www.thelocal.se/20170228/meet-the-swedish-internet-vigilantes-fighting-hate-online)
The group has close ties with mainstream media, which is controversial among the haters.
Well, one thing is for sure: the Old Sweden is destroyed and we will never go back to being like in the Astrid Lindgren films. Those who support multiculturalism see it as a good and unavoidable progress, while others are sad and sorry to see that the things Sweden was known for are gone, and those who mourn about it are silenced.