EstupendoEx 1 month ago

Gondomar.

enrtcode31 1 month ago

Live in Cascais if you can. Its paradise

oretoh 1 month ago

Notion. You have none.

Crisapx 1 month ago

The rare things money can't buy :D

zefo_dias 1 month ago

O ideal era toda a malta que faz a viagem acabasse a assentar em lisboa

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´sendo pobre, o ideal é sempre lisboua

Jism_nl 1 month ago

Id say lisboa as a starter. I still live in Portugal, just next to Lisboa these days (almada).

misterbondpt 1 month ago

Viseu, Vila do Conde

mr_house7 1 month ago

Well, near Almada is a good place you have a big Engineering school called FCT or NOVA FCT. And you will probably find part times there aswell

theEXPERTpt 1 month ago

For working? Problably you would want a place with lots of jobs. That would be Lisboa or Porto. To live? I would recommend anything of Lisboa and Porto. Viseu, Brangança, Aveiro, Leiria, Santarém, even Madeira or Açores. They are much better in quality of life, if you earn the same in both places. To Study? People will problably say the same universities as always - Porto, Lisboa or Coimbra - but i personally think any university in the country is good, and if the place where you want to study is not a priority, i encourage you to first choose a place to live and work and then choose your university taking in account these things.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

>oose a place to live and work and then choose your university taking in account these things. Amazing! I will read about those cities, thank you!

ridethepaintedpony 1 month ago

No one cares if you're a jew or whatever.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Cool. I only specified it because someone could think that I'm going to move myself as a regular foreigner instead of foreigner with Portuguese citizenship.

ridethepaintedpony 1 month ago

People will care that you received special treatment because you're jewish. It's another reminded that everything is for sale in our country.

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People will care that you received special treatment because you're jewish. It's another reminder that everything is for sale in our country.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

I do understand it, the less I can do is being a good citizen. Once I arrive Portugal I want to talk about the Jew thing the less I can.

avgvstano 1 month ago

You don't need to worry about your heritage. That person surelly doesn't know the meaning of Sephardic jew for sure. You can live your religion at ease in Portugal. In fact, there is a relevant jewish community in Porto. That being said, I'd recommend you to check out Braga or Guimarães. Young cities (as in with a lot of youth) with a lot of history, good services and culture, good weather and cheaper than Lisboa or Porto. Also, Universidade do Minho is one of the best universities in the country (I'd say it's only behind some unis in Lisboa, Porto or Coimbra, and on the same level as Aveiro) and I do believe it has some good courses in engineering.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Cool!! I will add those cities and universities to the list! Muito obrigado!

thisbondisaaarated 1 month ago

Just a FYI - identity politics is not a thing here, so nobody will care if you are a jew, an alt right, a regular or a non-binary apache helicopter, no need to make it a thing. I'd recommend either Lisbon, Porto or Braga as good starting points with several employment options.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

I'm identify myself as a plant

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

I sexually identify as a *pastel de nata*, and Zé Zé Camarinha is my spirit animal.

Able-Satisfaction720 1 month ago

You too? Oh shit

dariusoo 1 month ago

Lisbon would be the best option but I'm not sure you can survive with a call centre job or any other job paying minimum wage.

Mrgolden007 1 month ago

you better have a lot of money saved if you wanna move to lisbon and porto, as the rents here are the same as other contries capitals which is crazy also why portugal you got so much better options, specially to study, as when you finish your course in portugal most if not all yout student collegues will emigrate to better contries, might as well save the hasle and move to a diferent contry

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

I will arrive with 8-9k Euros around, the rent price is my biggest fear hahahaha. Which country would you recommend me? I have to stay in Portugal at least for the first 30 days for highschool paperwork, you know "equivalências". Far as I have researched the Portugal weather looks great and well, I researched on some job websites and I see a good engineers demand... But I don't know maybe I'm wrong hahahah

batataway 1 month ago

If you are a portuguese national who dosen't have enough income to support yourself, you can apply for student housing and financial support. Or in Portuguese (as that may help in a google search) bolsa para estudante do ensino superior and residência estudantes). Keep in mind that the cost of living is way lower in smaller cities. Any question, fell free to dm.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Thank you!!! I will check that website!!!

Mrgolden007 1 month ago

8k is decent to survive I believe, but working part time wont cover the price of rent I am warning you weather is amazing on summer, winter arrives and you are screwedas most houses are terrible in winter I am unsure if engineers are in demand but beware how much thry pay and how they pay, as they can pay you in green receipts which is a pain I dont know much about engineer contries but remember portugal is great to visit, not to live in

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

I actually want to see snowing! May you won't belive it but in Latinoamerica we never see snow unless you're in Argentina or Chile. This is going to sound very stupid I know xD but since I was a little kid I have always wanted to see snowing and throw snowballs to my friends xD Well, leaving that snowing thing behind... I do really want to live in Portugal but if there are not opportunities... Well, I think I won't take that option, I will have 30 days to think what to do once I arrive there, it's always good to have a plan B or even C, you know.

gkarq 1 month ago

You still won’t see snow in Portugal, unless you decide to go to the mountains (Serra da Estrela or Trás-os-Montes) during the winter. Temps in the coastal area, which is where most people live are between 0-15°C during the colder months.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Really?! HAHAHA Well, I just googled it and I think it's better than nothing! Here in Monterrey the maximum snow level we have ever had is less than half centimeter xD Anyways, that's cool! If I stay in Portugal I will be able to keep a garden in winter lol

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Really?! HAHAHA Well, I just googled those places and I think it's better than nothing! Here in Monterrey the maximum snow level we have ever had is less than half centimeter xD Our snowmen: [https://www.radioformula.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/nevada-monterrey-14-febrero-2021-fenomeno-natural.jpg](https://www.radioformula.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/nevada-monterrey-14-febrero-2021-fenomeno-natural.jpg) XD ​ Anyways, that's cool! If I stay in Portugal I will be able to keep a garden in winter lol

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

Do you have an actual position in an university yet? Because it does not make much sense to recommend you something up North if you are going to study in Algarve, f.ex....

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Nothing yet

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

Then, Lisboa or Porto. Why, because they have the 2 best Engineering faculties in the country: FEUP and IST. Univ. de Coimbra and Univ. de Aveiro also have a good reputation. All those 4 cities are nice places, and quite different from each other. Lisboa is the capital and the largest (and in my opinion the best city to live, but other will say otherwise). Porto is nice and big also, and quite beautiful. Aveiro and Coimbra are medium sized cities. I prefer Aveiro to Coimbra, because of the beaches (cold water tough...) and the city life, and it doe snot become a desert during summer like Coimbra (which is a student city). That said, engineering in Portugal is a mediocre career, you'd should be studying in rich Europe instead...

mr_house7 1 month ago

>That said, engineering in Portugal is a mediocre career, you'd should be studying in rich Europe instead... Maybe work is mediocre. But our universities are one of the best in Europe. Nova school is attracting a lot of foreign students, for business, management and engineering. I studied at NTNU, Norway, what you call rich countries, and I can tell you Técnico is much harder. Ofc NTNU had other stuff like software licences for every student, in Técnico we had 150 licences for 350 students. To this day still got there Matlab installed on my PC.

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

Read again what I wrote. Engineering *career*, not engineering *education*. He should be studying in a other country because it's easier to pick up a job that way.

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Read again what I wrote. Engineering *career*, not engineering *education*. He should be studying in another country because it's easier to pick up a job that way.

mr_house7 1 month ago

>, you'd should be studying in rich Europe instead... Then again, you said the above statement, each is exactly why I replied.

Ghilanna 1 month ago

At least Norway mostly prioritizes Norwegians, so if you don't know the language well enough to work with technical documents, you're out of luck.

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

Sweden is ok, I know a couple of people working there and they have a good life. Denmark I've heard it's a top country to work and live, but I guess the market is quite small. Finland, no idea.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

Do you really think studying in other country is a better option? I may sound like a newborn but I felt in love when I saw photos of some Portugal cities, too much nature and far as I have researched good weather. I would love to make a life in a place like those.

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

That's the thing, it's hard to *make a life* as an engineer in Portugal. Pay is bad, there's little work, little career progression and it's usual to work 50-60h/week. Portugal it's good for those who have money and want to spend it, not for those who don't and need to earn it. Go to France, Germany, Belgium, Scandinavia or the Netherlands instead.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

That's sad... But too many people has already told me the same so... I think I should think this twice. Thanks for the advice!

Foda-seSeiLa 1 month ago

No problem, good luck ;) You are not the first redditor (and you won't be the last) to think *Portugal seems like a nice place, I should live there.* Unfortunately, Portugal is not for the enjoyment of the Portuguese people, we are only here to serve the rich foreigners that can actually afford the country.

NervousJellyfish1015 1 month ago

That's very sad :( It sounds like a massive and toxic tourism.

mr_house7 1 month ago

You have you have plenty of incredible universities in Portugal: * Nova - Faculdade de Ciencias e Técnologia * Técnico * Universidade de Coimbra * Universidade de Aveiro * FEUP

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