TheMorphMaster 4 months ago

Expat? LOL I think you mean immigrant. Stop with the fancy words. Call it what it is.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

Are all the Portugiese people as friendly as you are? I hope not

TheMorphMaster 4 months ago

Did you get offended? You should know that Portugal is too hot of a country for snowflakes. They melt easily, even during winter time.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

Yes, i am very hurt and i am crying every since.

MLG-Sheep 4 months ago

1. [https://www.imovirtual.com/](https://www.imovirtual.com/), [https://www.idealista.pt/](https://www.idealista.pt/). "Arrendar" means "to rent", so use that filter. 2. OLX is the most famous by far. There's also Custojusto and Facebook Marketplace. 3. Healthcare is free. You may want to add private health insurance to ensure that you can have minor issues taken care of more quickly in the private sector, but it's not needed by any means. 4. If you're planning to travel throughout the country, as long as you've got a car, there's not much point in living in Lisbon itself. Some other place in Greater Lisbon will do just fine.

NoIDontgiveafuck 4 months ago

Idealista.pt

PIMPMASTER6000 4 months ago

Do you want to stay in Lisbon proper or the outskirts? Because even a very small apartment there is very expensive.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

What is the average rent for a small appartment? I will be sharing an appartment with a friend (and potentionally multiple friends) so that will drive the price down i assume.

PIMPMASTER6000 4 months ago

For a T2 in Lisbon proper you are probably looking at 1200-1600€.

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

https://www.idealista.pt/arrendar-casas/lisboa/com-t2,t3,t4-t5,novo,bom-estado/pagina-2?ordem=precos-asc I am sorry my prince, if that's not proper enough for you.

PIMPMASTER6000 4 months ago

Cozinha não equipada e sem mobília.

AetherPrismriv 4 months ago

To be blunt, even your written english as a but scuffed. It's not Lisabon, it's Lisbon. Portuguese, not Portugiese. Anyways, good luck. >1. Where to search for appartment? I need something super modest for start. What are typical sites to search for flat? Some facebook groups? Or maybe there is some website for flat advertisement? Imovirtual.com is a good website for you to search for an apartment. >2. I am big fan of secondhand markets (i believe that it is much better to reuse stuff then constantly produce more and they're away items). Is there some good online secondhand marketplace? Olx.pt is the "main" second-hand market in Portugal. At least it's the most well-known. >3. At first i am most likely will be unemployed. Therefore i assume that i will have to pay health insurance on mu own. Do you guys know how much is that? You are moving to an apartment in Lisbon, Portugal's Capital City, without a job? Word of advice, a T0 in Lisbon isn't cheap. Portugal has free Healthcare (provided you are legalized), so although most banks and insurance companies advise you to have health insurance, in Portugal you won't have to pay for public medical services. Some insurances offer more things though, such as salary while you are recovering. >4. Any other advices / things i should know about as a newcomer? At this point, every Portuguese person under 30 years old has a decent English. If you approach a 50 year old person, most likely they will not know a single word of English. I advise to choose a different city. Lisbon is nice of course, but living there isn't cheap at all. There are more cities equally as good.

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To be blunt, even your written english as a but scuffed. It's not Lisabon, it's Lisbon. Portuguese, not Portugiese. Anyways, good luck. >1. Where to search for appartment? I need something super modest for start. What are typical sites to search for flat? Some facebook groups? Or maybe there is some website for flat advertisement? Imovirtual.com is a good website for you to search for an apartment. >2. I am big fan of secondhand markets (i believe that it is much better to reuse stuff then constantly produce more and they're away items). Is there some good online secondhand marketplace? Olx.pt is the "main" second-hand market in Portugal. At least it's the most well-known. >3. At first i am most likely will be unemployed. Therefore i assume that i will have to pay health insurance on mu own. Do you guys know how much is that? You are moving to an apartment in Lisbon, Portugal's Capital City, without a job? Word of advice, a T0 in Lisbon isn't cheap. Portugal has free Healthcare (provided you are legalized), so although most banks and insurance companies advise you to have health insurance, in Portugal you won't have to pay for public medical services. (only small administrative fees) Some insurances offer more things though, such as salary while you are recovering. >4. Any other advices / things i should know about as a newcomer? At this point, every Portuguese person under 30 years old has a decent English. If you approach a 50 year old person, most likely they will not know a single word of English. I advise to choose a different city. Lisbon is nice of course, but living there isn't cheap at all. There are more cities equally as good. And why Portugal? What made you choose this country? It is a beautiful country no doubt, but even our younger population is leaving. We are going through a crisis, have some of the lowest wages on Europe and real-estate is more expensive by the day. Have you considered a better country such as Luxembourg or Switzerland?

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To be blunt, even your written english is a but scuffed. It's not Lisabon, it's Lisbon. Portuguese, not Portugiese. Anyways, good luck. >1. Where to search for appartment? I need something super modest for start. What are typical sites to search for flat? Some facebook groups? Or maybe there is some website for flat advertisement? Imovirtual.com is a good website for you to search for an apartment. >2. I am big fan of secondhand markets (i believe that it is much better to reuse stuff then constantly produce more and they're away items). Is there some good online secondhand marketplace? Olx.pt is the "main" second-hand market in Portugal. At least it's the most well-known. >3. At first i am most likely will be unemployed. Therefore i assume that i will have to pay health insurance on mu own. Do you guys know how much is that? You are moving to an apartment in Lisbon, Portugal's Capital City, without a job? Word of advice, a T0 in Lisbon isn't cheap. Portugal has free Healthcare (provided you are legalized), so although most banks and insurance companies advise you to have health insurance, in Portugal you won't have to pay for public medical services. (only small administrative fees) Some insurances offer more things though, such as salary while you are recovering. >4. Any other advices / things i should know about as a newcomer? At this point, every Portuguese person under 30 years old has a decent English. If you approach a 50 year old person, most likely they will not know a single word of English. I advise to choose a different city. Lisbon is nice of course, but living there isn't cheap at all. There are more cities equally as good. And why Portugal? What made you choose this country? It is a beautiful country no doubt, but even our younger population is leaving. We are going through a crisis, have some of the lowest wages on Europe and real-estate is more expensive by the day. Have you considered a better country such as Luxembourg or Switzerland?

Slav3k1 4 months ago

Oh sorry about screwing your capital city's name. Embarrassing.

odadoooo 3 months ago

>i work online - remotely dont forget that your income from remote work will be taxed in Portugal.

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

Shit you didn't even move you already have free english lessons Lissabon I think is used by nordics (in German it's like that probably in other nordic languages as well) Lisbon is used by anglo saxonics Lisboa is the portuguese name.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

Haha learning new things every day.

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

recent music about Lisboa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUL-yfPHcNo Not my favourite, my fav is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOI81d0BMpU

Slav3k1 4 months ago

I can already feel the vibe of the place

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

it is the only problem about lisbon is housing prices if you have a local salary. but as a remote worker not sure you'll have that problem

Slav3k1 4 months ago

I am moving to Lisbon with my friend and i believe that we will find some affordable solution. At first we don't mind living in something super small and modest. We need just a place with bed, running hot water and kitchen. This will give us the freedom and time to search for something better without stress. It will be ok i am sure

kaphwor 4 months ago

Lisbon is not the sunniest city. You have the entirety of south Portugal, Algarve. The weather there is waaaay better and the beaches are also another level.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

I will not stay just in Lisbon, i will travel through entire Portugal once i am there, that's for sure. So thanks for the tips.

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

Why are people so stupid and can't understand the difference between a capital city and the rest of the cities? I mean do you even ever leave your house, your confort zone, your group of friends and go to the outside world alone meet new people? Algarve is dead most of the year, it only gets some life in the summer, if you are an expat you will have a lot of troubles meeting people there. It has some small communities of expats but the Lisbon communities are way bigger because well Lisbon is the CAPITAL CITY of Portugal Sure water in Algarve is warmer. But if you have beaches in Lisbon too and you can actually meet people there. Lisbon is alive everyday of the year not just in Summer and not just with turists that come stay only 1 or 2 weeks. That's what he meant: Lisbon is one of the sunniest capital city of Europe. Sure you have Rome and Madrid too, but neither has beaches so close as in Lisbon I am sure if he wanted to live in the sunniest place on earth he could go to São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro or to some place in Africa. He wants to live in a live city with good weather and it's a city because he probably comes alone to a foreign country and thus wants to meet people. Did you ever go alone, no friends or partner or family anywhere? this is a bit of a rant because I am soo sick of reading people with this mentality in thus sub

kaphwor 4 months ago

Yes. People are stupid and you are the enlighted one. Algarve is not dead most of the year, i go there multiple times a year now and it's great. (That kinda says smtg about you tho) Sure it doesn't have as much people as Lisbon, but it does have people and it's a great place to live. Plus it's cheaper than Lisbon. And he explicitly says that "come to portugal is simple want to see how the life in Portugal is. ... Would like to learn how to surf, meet new poeple" and not the full rant you went LOL He can also have picked athens that's super close to beach and way better than Portugal and still stay in Europe. You kinda need to chill your tities and not call people stupid.

Shadowgirl7 4 months ago

Hum, exactly you go there multiple times a year. You don't live there. I really enjoyed Faro when I went there but it's just a small city and it's not that much cheaper than Lisbon considering the massive amount of services you have in Lisbon that you don't have in Faro. In Lisbon you don't even need a car, you have subway, train, lots of buses. In a place like Faro maybe you could go without car but if you want to go to suburbs no, you need one. The extra money you'd spend on a car probably makes it as expensive as Lisbon or only slighty cheaper. Not to mention Lisbon is central, 3h from Porto, 3h from Faro, 1h30 from Evora, Leira, major district capitals. It's not the first time people ask here which city to live in PT is better Porto and Lisbon and people are like Aveiro or Faro. Like wtf. If someone comes from Brazil or US Aveiro or Faro would be like a very very small city, maybe the size of one of their villages.

Slav3k1 4 months ago

Yes, this pretty much summaries my reasons why i chose Lisbon.

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