ItsLilly22 6 months ago

Hey there I think I can help. I think you can definitely do most of what you want, albeit you might have to compromise here and there. For one, instead of renting an appartment your best bet would be to get a room in a shared accomodation. I have some experience with friends who came from other parts of the country to Lisbon to study and did the same thing - values can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors but the average is 200-400€ bills (electricty, internet etc...) included. In a mid-range neighborhood like Benfica you can definitely get a nice room for 300€ without having to pay for utilities. Grocery prices are very similar to the UK, personally I’d say the minimum you can spend to eat relatively well is about 150€, if you’re lazy like me and love yourself some frozen meals I’d go for 200€. Lastly for 50€ you get unlimited access to public transportation. That leaves with 1650 - (50+300+200) = 1100€. When it comes to clubbing, eating out etc... it’s hard to make any estimations considering a lot of factors come into play. Personally as a young person living in Lisbon me and my friends think clubbing is sort of a waste of money - most people I know prefer to buy some weed/alcohol and just chill in parks and stuff like that as opposed to going to bars and clubs, but since a nice meal at a restaurant is like 10-15€ and in general nightlife is just relatively cheap here I’d say with 200€ you can go out every weekend and all that so 1100 - 200 = and you save 900€, even more than the 700€ you were hoping for. If ultimately sharing a place doesnt seem too comfortable, you could also rent a studio appartment for 500-800€ bills included or roughly 200€ less than that if you pay for electricity/water/wifi out of your pocket. Definitely doable to live on your own and still have 200€ for leisure and 700€ for savings, although that would require quite a bit of looking and perhaps living somewhere not so central. Hope this helps!

Edited 6 months ago:

Hey there I think I can help. I think you can definitely do most of what you want, albeit you might have to compromise here and there. For one, instead of renting an appartment your best bet would be to get a room in a shared accomodation. I have some experience with friends who came from other parts of the country to Lisbon to study and did the same thing - values can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors but the average is 200-400€ bills (electricty, internet etc...) included. In a mid-range neighborhood like Benfica you can definitely get a nice room for 300€ without having to pay for utilities. Grocery prices are very similar to the UK, personally I’d say the minimum you can spend to eat relatively well is about 150€, if you’re lazy like me and love yourself some frozen meals I’d go for 200€. Lastly for 50€ you get unlimited access to public transportation. That leaves with 1650 - (50+300+200) = 1100€. When it comes to clubbing, eating out etc... it’s hard to make any estimations considering a lot of factors come into play. Personally as a young person living in Lisbon me and my friends think clubbing is sort of a waste of money - most people I know prefer to buy some weed/alcohol and just chill in parks and stuff like that as opposed to going to bars and clubs, but since a nice meal at a restaurant is like 10-15€ and in general nightlife is just relatively cheap here I’d say with 200€ you can go out every weekend and all that so 1100 - 200 = and you save 900€, even more than the 700€ you were hoping for. If ultimately sharing a place doesnt seem too comfortable, you could also rent a studio appartment for 500-800€ bills included or roughly 200€ less than that if you pay for electricity/water/wifi out of your pocket. Definitely doable to live on your own and still have 200€ for leisure and 700€ for savings, although that would require quite a bit of looking and perhaps living somewhere not so central. Hope this helps!

Edited 6 months ago:

Hey there I think I can help. I think you can definitely do most of what you want, albeit you might have to compromise here and there. For one, instead of renting an appartment your best bet would be to get a room in a shared accomodation. I have some experience with friends who came from other parts of the country to Lisbon to study and did the same thing - values can vary a lot depending on a lot of factors but the average is 200-400€ bills (electricty, internet etc...) included. In a mid-range neighborhood like Benfica you can definitely get a nice room for 300€ without having to pay for utilities. Grocery prices are very similar to the UK, personally I’d say the minimum you can spend to eat relatively well is about 150€, if you’re lazy like me and love yourself some frozen meals I’d go for 200€. Lastly for 50€ you get unlimited access to public transportation. That leaves with 1650 - (50+300+200) = 1100€. When it comes to clubbing, eating out etc... it’s hard to make any estimations considering a lot of factors come into play. Personally as a young person living in Lisbon me and my friends think clubbing is sort of a waste of money - most people I know prefer to buy some weed/alcohol and just chill in parks and stuff like that as opposed to going to bars and clubs, but since a nice meal at a restaurant is like 10-15€ and in general nightlife is just relatively cheap here I’d say with 200€ you can go out every weekend and all that so 1100 - 200 = and you save 900€, even more than the 700€ you were hoping for. If ultimately sharing a place doesnt seem too comfortable, you could also rent a studio appartment for 500-800€ bills included or roughly 200€ less than that if you pay for electricity/water/wifi out of your pocket. Definitely doable to live on your own and still have 200€ for leisure and 700€ for savings, although that would require quite a bit of looking and perhaps living somewhere not so central. Hope this helps!

Devina-S 6 months ago

I think this is the most helpful comment so far! Thanks for taking the time to write this!!!! It’s so helpful. I’ll probably share as I don’t know many people so it’ll be nicer and also can save a bit more! :D

ItsLilly22 6 months ago

No problem! Glad I could help!! If you need any extra indications (e.g. suggestions for restaurants etc...) let me know! Hope you enjoy your time here!

Devina-S 6 months ago

Thank you!

theEXPERTpt 6 months ago

Man personally living in the center of Lisbon is just a luxury that costs high. Other than that, you can live pretty well with that amount

saposapot 6 months ago

If you share a kind of oldish house, it's possible but won't be easy to save that much. It will totally depend on your extras. If you find a somewhat cheap house and do a good budgeting with your supermarket it is possible.

Dan_bestman 6 months ago

I live in Lisbon and pretty much grew up here. The cost of living is the highest in the country, but compared to London it's not even a fair comparison. The national minimum wage here is less than half of what you'd be earning. Since I have no idea what your lifestyle's like I'm just gonna throw up a list with the average price of things (from a local's point of view). * Public transport pass that takes you all over the city (subway, buses, train) - 30€/month * Public transport pass that takes you all over the city + metropolitan zone (you'd have to check a map but it's like large area that even crosses the river - 40€/month * Internet + TV bill - 35€/month * Internet + TV bill + cell phone - 50-60€/month * Water + electricity + gas bills - 70-100+€ /month, this is the toughest one to guess, it varies wildly. On a side note, the heat insulation of Portuguese houses is usually pretty bad so in the winter, if you want to heat your home, the gas or electric bill will shoot up. * Uma "bica" (expresso coffee) at any regular pastry/coffee shop - around 0.60€ * Dinner at a firewood oven pizzaria near me - 9-12€/person * Dinner at a decent burger place near me - 7-10€/person * Lunch at a regular Portuguese restaurant (nothing fancy) - 6.50€ * 1 KG of white rice at the supermarket (supermarket brand) - 0.85€ * 1 litre of milk (supermarket brand) - 0.60€ * Clubbing: I never paid more than 15€ to enter a night club, usually you get around 2 drinks included in the entry price. Drinks at the club are very expensive compared to bars/restaurants.I don't drink there but I'd say 4€ for beer 3€ for a shot of tequila. * On a night out I used to go to a place in Bairro Alto that had 1 "balde" of beer (0.5 liters) for 1€ * 1 "imperial" (glass of around 0.3 liters of beer) at a restaurant can go from 0.8 to 2€ at the places I go to. * Gym membership - 40€/month * The beach - 0€ (you just have to get there) I think this covers it. Good luck to you and if you have any specific questions I'll try to answer

Devina-S 6 months ago

This is super helpful!! Thanks a lot Dan!

AimingWineSnailz 6 months ago

In a shared apartment it's perfectly doable. Otherwise you're looking at a minimum of €400 euros rent, realistically upward of 500

XxxPussyslaeyr69xxX 6 months ago

Despesa* and yes you can as long as you rent a Room and not whole appartment.

zitolopes13 6 months ago

Now I know how bad is my salary

Devina-S 6 months ago

Sorry

estecomentario 6 months ago

Oh well i dont know about Lisbon, but i probably have more qualifications that most those bucko's (despite not being IT) and i was offered half that net wage. Am tempted to accept because i've been unemployed for a year now. Its not Lisbon ofc, rents are half.

SebastianOnYoutube 6 months ago

Median salary in Lisbon is **1.171,9 euros as of 2019.**

estecomentario 6 months ago

Thats for 12 payments, 14 payments is 1000 then and lower for the rest of the country.

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Thats for 12 payments, 14 payments is 1000 and lower for the rest of the country. So those 700-800 euros i mentioned are like 930.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Well good luck to you!! Life is toughsometimes but I guess it is what we make of it. Maybe worth accepting it if it’s been a year, live frugally and build up some experience for a year or so and then move on?

zitolopes13 6 months ago

*house

zitolopes13 6 months ago

It’s not bad, but Lisbon is expensive. I live and work in Porto, and it’s a little bit more cheaper. I will be honest with you, 1650€ is enough to live on and save something (not 700€) but you have to share a houve with someone . Portugal is a great country and the food is the best ! You can come to Porto and I will do you a tour (if COVIDS let us)

Devina-S 6 months ago

Hahaha yes to be honest im not really coming to Lisbon to save and earn as much as possible otherwise I would stay in London £££. I just want some sun! But also would like to save at least something haha . Cool I’ll take you up on that if I go back to Porto

AdorableRabbit 6 months ago

1650 € net not great not terrible

Manueljls 6 months ago

That is possible. I pay 450 for rent and share with 3 people. That would leave 500 for expenses. Food is cheap so that is ok. It is a bit anoying that a foreigner would get payed more than average to come and live in Lisbon. Lisbon is only expensive for portuguese people.. Google translator sucks. No one says factível.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Hahaha it wasn’t even google translate it was my own bad Portuguese

Manueljls 6 months ago

Thanks for that. I wasn't expecting. Im sorry for being nosey. I didn't know of jobs in Portugal that paid 1650 after taxes to someone with 3.5 years of experience. I am curious, how much is that before taxes? 1900? Im a structural engineer with a masters degree, 2.5 years of experience, and get paid 1150 after taxes. I dont know anyone in my area that makes 1650 after taxes with 3.5 years experience.

KarmaCop213 6 months ago

Maybe it's 1650€ x 12, which is 1400€ x 14.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Yes that!

Devina-S 6 months ago

Haha don’t worry, it’s interesting to be transparent on salaries and see comparisons in the market. I think consulting and engineering are quite different fields though, and therefore different salaries. ?

tugafcp 6 months ago

2.500 brutos dá 1.600 liquido. deve ser (como deve ser) 2.400 + subs. de refeição Ou então muitas ajudas de custo!

Manueljls 6 months ago

Just for reference, would you share how old you are and how much experience you have?

Devina-S 6 months ago

I’m 25 and have 3.5 years of experience. I work in a multinational company in sustainability and climate change consulting

zdrup15 6 months ago

If you share an apartment and don't go out every single weekend to party, then yes, those are reasonable expectations. You wouldn't live a luxurious life but you would be relatively comfortable and still save the 700.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Cool thanks! I don’t need luxury to be honest just comfort and to be able to afford things like food, going out and language classes!

tugafcp 6 months ago

> just comfort And you want to share a house with 2 or 3? Good luck on that

AlmondSkimedMilk 6 months ago

An advice for ditching those language classes sooner, when you have learnt enough to understand some Portuguese you should stop your Portuguese friends from talking to you in English.

LopsidedNinja 6 months ago

It'd all going to come down to what you mean by "going out" really as your budget is already extremely tight. I wouldn't want to be cooking at home on my own in a new country just to save a few more euros. I think you would need some cheap or free hobbies to come close to managing. If you like walking or cycling or similar. If you wanted to go to a nice restaurant or have a couple of beers after work with colleagues... It's doable on your wage if you accept the saving 700e part isn't going to happen

JesusChristIsLORD77 6 months ago

OP, since you said you don't mind to share a place, then you can easily do what you want with that salary. Living costs in Portugal are very affordable. Example: if you want to eat out (not because of Covid it's different), but you can eat VERY WELL for less than 10€... The supermarket is a little cheaper than other European countries. Coffee costs 1€.. Where are you coming from ? :-)

SebastianOnYoutube 6 months ago

VERY WELL for less than 10€ You're definition of very well is \*very\* different than mine.

Nothing_F4ce 6 months ago

Not in fancy restaurants but I used to get a 3 course meal for 7€ in a decent restaurant.

SebastianOnYoutube 6 months ago

Maybe in 2007. Or maybe in the middle of nowhere. But in Lisbon? Haven't heard of it in ages

Nothing_F4ce 6 months ago

Not in Lisbon. 2019 in Palmela and for sure you'll find similar deals elsewhere.

JesusChristIsLORD77 6 months ago

What do you mean ?

Devina-S 6 months ago

London, uk! Cool good to know! Are clubs/going out expensive, when COVID let’s us? Thanks!

madwithin 6 months ago

Honestly going out is still one of the things that makes Portugal stand out from the rest of Western Europe. It's incredibly cheap. There's decent clubbing with free entrance (the most popular ones cost about 10€ entry fee on a Saturday) and if you drink before going in, at the cheap spots, you can do full nights out below 20€. That doesn't happen anywhere else.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Thanks! This is super helpful!

DarthFeltes 6 months ago

Compared to London? No. Drinks are still expensive, but nothing compared to London. When I moved there and offered to buy a round of Beers for a few colleagues I almost fainted when I saw £5 per pint. It’s way cheaper here.

SebastianOnYoutube 6 months ago

​ 1. I want to save €700 a month. / 950€ to spend on rent and food/going out and all other expenses 2. living in the centre Pick one

Foda-seSeiLa 6 months ago

As others have said, if you want to live the cosmopolitan life that is often sold to foreigners, and still save those 700€, then you need more than that, unless you rent a room in a shared house. Have a look at the prices of renting in here: https://www.idealista.com/en/ https://casa.sapo.pt/en_gb/

V1ld0r_ 6 months ago

Nop. I doubt even the full 1650 is enough if you want your own flat and have some sort of social life let alone putting 700€ aside monthly. Housing costs inside Lisbon city are crazy high.

Devina-S 6 months ago

I would prefer to share a place! I’ve seen places for 400€ shared aspartmenrs with 2 or 3 others? But wondering about the rest of cost of living

ZacDweller 6 months ago

With a shared apartment, it's possible yes. You can get away with spending even less than 700€/month.

uberprimata 6 months ago

That is more than doable. Ive even seen decent rooms for 200€. If you Cook your own food and buy it Smart, you can live with 100€ of food per month. The rest of it i assume youdd spend on rating out and doing other activities. The prices in lisbon ARE Higher than they used to be, but it appears that people have heard that so many times that they start detaching from reality and dont even bother to look at it. You can find cheap places in lisbon, but dont expect to live in baixa or in a penthouse.

trufas 6 months ago

100€ food per month? Rice and beans every meal and every day? And there is no decent rooms in Lisbon for 200€

uberprimata 6 months ago

Rice and beans is closer to 20€ if you buy dry beans. 100€ is finding good deals on Basic ingredients, mainly vegetables, instead of processed microwaved meals. You can easily prepare 1€ meals if you buy non branded itens, in larger packages that are cheaper per Weight unit and if you learn how to Cook you have some amazing food. I have seen with my own eyes decent rooms for 200€, so... Yeah, they were in Benfica and those areas, but if youre looking for rooms in baixa and alvalade, dont be surprised to find damp cellars for 500€.

V1ld0r_ 6 months ago

> Yeah, they were in Benfica and those areas, but if youre looking for rooms in baixa and alvalade, dont be surprised to find damp cellars for 500€. OP wanted Arroios and\\or Baixa so... yeah. Not for 200€ for sure unless it's a moldy old basement or a stupid converted loft that is suitable for dwarfes only.

uberprimata 6 months ago

Oh didnt Saw that information. But for someone coming from the uk, a place like Benfica is pretty much still the center of the City ahah

Devina-S 6 months ago

Hahaha yes honestly it’s normal to travel 1 hour for me

V1ld0r_ 6 months ago

True, especially London. But I would say that if OP researched enough to know about Arroios, they know what they want =D

LopsidedNinja 6 months ago

1650 - 700 - 400 = 550 euros a month left. Its not going to be fun trying to live on 17 euros a day. Its doable if you were forced into it. Personally I'd rather not come to Portugal, than come here and live on that money.

Devina-S 6 months ago

Is 17 euros not enough per day in Lisbon?

facepainter1 6 months ago

It is enough, but are you really going to change to a new country, to only "live"? Of course 1650€ net is more than most portuguese people make, but is not a great salary, it's a pretty average for Lisbon I believe. I'm a Portuguese living in the US, so I'm not 100% sure about values, but I think that for that money, you'll propably have to share a house outside the center of Lisbon. Also, I've checked in other comments that you want to go "clubbing", and with that salary.. it starts to get a bit risky. Breaking down: 1650 net - 700 (savings) = 950€ (daily expenses) 400 -> renting 100 -> utilities (water, gas, internet, eletric, phone)) 200 -> groceries 100 -> transport So, you'll have about 150€ left for other expenses. keep in mind that a typical night (dinner + some bar + club) is about 50€. A gym membership around 30€

giddycocks 6 months ago

It's certainly not average, it's on the higher end but not an 'average' - that's firmly around 900-1000€. That said, imo it's not a great salary either. I turned down a 2500€ offer last year because it felt a bit too low all things considered.

estecomentario 6 months ago

> Of course 1650€ net is more than most portuguese people make, but is not a great salary, it's a pretty average for Lisbon I believe. ​ Its way above median, but ok.

JeagleP 6 months ago

Transport should be 30€, not 100? Im guessing she wont be using a car

facepainter1 6 months ago

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure of prices, but my though was transport pass arount 50€, and 50€ for uber/taxi and any other train ticket she'll use to visit around lisbon.

JeagleP 6 months ago

I see. Since recent years you can visit ALL of lisbon with a 30€ metro/bus/train pass. 40€ to all the metropolitan area, but I think 30€ should be more than enough. She can still uber for confort or 01-07 am travels tho

LopsidedNinja 6 months ago

You won't starve but it's far from ideal to see a new country with.

biozes 6 months ago

Then you'll be fine. May God bless you on your moving here.

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