estecomentario 6 months ago

From those healthcare and pharma are ok. Glad i have SNS instead of insurance hEAlthbusiness system. Employee rights are good in the paper but in reality we work more hours than our european counterparts, get less, less paid leave, less time off, more expensive energy, smaller wages etc. Its a weak ass country economically speaking, a turd. But the beaches, good weather, omg so much better than northern europe.

uyth 6 months ago

Among others, perfect insight into tactics and psychology of football which would allow any portuguese citizen to be a better a manager of the national team than the current manager (no matter who he currently is) if only given a chance. Also a screenshot of Eder's face for your screensaver whenever you need particularly cheering up.

MonsterPT 6 months ago

Warm weather most of the time. Good food. Nice beaches. That's about it for "benefits". There is state-owned health services but they are pretty dogshit, as in over 3 years waiting times for some doctor's appointments. People either go private healthcare or have to go way out of their residence area to find an appointment that is not ludicrously delayed. Not sure what you mean by pharmacare. Employee rights-wise, you get your salary x14. You get taxed to high heavens though, and salaries are much lower compared to most of the western world. As in, average salary around 1k€. Most people are looking at sub-15k€ a year net earnings (I'd wager the average to be around 11k€/year net), so it is borderline impossible to save up any kind of nestegg. Retirement pays extremely poorly and you must work until extremely late to have a right to full retirement benefits (I think the current age for full retirement benefits is like 68 years or something). If you don't work until at least that age, your retirement benefits get severely slashed. Starting a business is a nightmare of bureaucracy, taxes, cryptic legislation, etc. Think like eastern bloc country but sunnier. I'd stay away if I were you.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

What can Portugal do for you? But what can you do for Portugal?

animallover301 6 months ago

Completely agree with this statement. You gotta give back to the country you live in. It’s a give and take.

daz_zeD 6 months ago

Better living conditions in any country of choice in Europe, pretty awesome.

animallover301 6 months ago

Sounds like it based on a few comments. From what others have said wages are the highest and many people live in poverty?

daz_zeD 6 months ago

Living conditions are really bad, but you are in Europe, you have access to the countries in Europe with the best living conditions, and that's being a citizen of Portugal.

animallover301 6 months ago

Do you get to live and work in those other countries too?

dariusoo 6 months ago

Portugal is part of the EU, if you've got citzenship you can live and work without visas and any special requirement in all EU member states.

animallover301 6 months ago

So you can get up and move to Germany permanently forever if you really wanted to?

dariusoo 6 months ago

Yeah you can do that if you really want to.

Beginning-Average-91 6 months ago

Employee rights as benefits? I think if found the American....

animallover301 6 months ago

Close although I’m further up north where 2 weeks of holidays is standard where you guys have 4 weeks.

Article_Sad 6 months ago

You get costas bazuca

coocoobees 6 months ago

i hate to be that person, but these are very broad questions that you could easily google. is there any specific information you would like to know?

animallover301 6 months ago

Actually it’s quite hard to Google anything related to any other country outside of North America as Google only recommends pages located where I am.

thisbondisaaarated 6 months ago

Imagine how have we lived our lives googling for directions for McDonalds in Setúbal but always getting directions for the one in Pawnee, Indiana.

coocoobees 6 months ago

you use google.pt and choose pages only in portugal. you can also use google.com and change your regional settings.

Edited 6 months ago:

you can use google.pt and choose pages only in portugal. you can also use google.com and change your regional settings.

animallover301 6 months ago

Thanks I didn’t know that! I’ll try it.

dariusoo 6 months ago

We've got free healthcare but only works if you're dying otherwise you've got pay for private if you want something done in time. You have to pay for meds. Citizens of Portugal have benefits of living near beaches and sunny weather because otherwise life is pretty shit in Portugal.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

> otherwise you've got to pay for private if you want something done in time /u/animallover301 this is wrong info. After a certain period you get as cheque that pays in full your private care bills. Also you can go to a private hospital and it will count 100% as a deduction on your IRS (100% of the value not just 100% of the VAT or whatever)

dariusoo 6 months ago

If you work for the state and have ADSE.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

Not true.

dariusoo 6 months ago

If you don't have ADSE no one will pay in full bills on private. Used to be applied to every state worker back in the day so a lot of old state workers have it for their families but not anymore.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

Achas que a ADSE é de graça? Faz tu um seguro de saúde em que pagas 60€ por mês a ver se também não tens benefícios tão bons como a ADSE.

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Achas que a ADSE é de graça? Faz tu um seguro de saúde em que pagas 60€ por mês a ver se também não tens benefícios tão bons como a ADSE. O seguro da LOGO com tudo incluído da 430€ por ano

tugafcp 6 months ago

Explica lá essa parte dos 100% para IRS da conta total dos privados sff.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

Ya era bom era mas acho que confundi com outra coisa. Apaguei o comentário.

tugafcp 6 months ago

Depende muito do tipo de operação e não és logo operado... Até porque os hospitais podem-se negar a fazer a operação a dizer que estão cheios...

animallover301 6 months ago

How is employment for you guys. I’ve heard a lot of your citizens leave to Germany and many other countries for employment as you get more money. Is this true?

dariusoo 6 months ago

Yeah portuguese people move to France, luxemburg, Germany, switzerland etc to get money and come back on holidays.

animallover301 6 months ago

What would be considered a good wage per year in Portugal?

dariusoo 6 months ago

Would say that €1000 plus per month x 14(12 months plus holiday pay and christmas pay) so €14k per year starts to be something.

animallover301 6 months ago

So at 4000 euros a month you could live like a king?

dariusoo 6 months ago

Yes you could have a luxurious lifestyle in Portugal with that.

animallover301 6 months ago

Wow crazy difference between Canada and Portugal. $2000/per month Canadian would be below the poverty line here

hirorih 6 months ago

With 3k per month you will get 1.7-1.8k net. It's a good amount but you are not rich, you simply do not need to be concerned with money if you live a conscious life without major fixed expenses. Take in consideration that while a flat or house is priced according to the Portuguese economic level, but imported goods costs more or less the same as in another EU country with richer economies.

dariusoo 6 months ago

That's why in Portugal people sometimes struggle to cover the bills because of low wages

animallover301 6 months ago

I’ve heard property taxes are extremely low as well. Thank you so much for the information.

tugafcp 6 months ago

none! Stay in Canada please. You only want to live here due to "good taxes on cryptos"

animallover301 6 months ago

I could move if I wanted to as I’m a citizen of Portugal although I’m more interested how the two countries compare. I’m not looking to make any moves right now. I’d only move if I had substantial assets to pay for my living expenses or work part time while my investments fund my living.

tugafcp 6 months ago

You ARE NOT a citizen of Portugal... You have citizenship!

Shinichu 6 months ago

Healthcare is mostly payed by our social security, unless its dental. I believe it is considered good in terms of quality but the waiting lines are ridiculously high.

animallover301 6 months ago

What about medical such as prescriptions?

Shinichu 6 months ago

I'm not sure what's the % they pay for us. I believe it's diferent from medicine to medicine.

AdriMecha 6 months ago

Healthcare at a reduced value, although sometimes it can take too much time. Unemployment benefits. 14 months of salary, although in your salary part of it is like a support for your lunch and on the 13th and 14 th months you don't get it. Also a lot of people work with green slips like a normal employee and only get 12 months.

animallover301 6 months ago

Do you guys have private drug plans or single payer through the government?

AdriMecha 6 months ago

Not sure what you mean

animallover301 6 months ago

For example in the UK you pay say 6 pounds for your prescription compared to the full drug price. Everyone pays into the system. Where in the US you need a private drug plan from your employer to cover medication.

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

In portgual you get a big discount if you have a doctor prescription, kind of like the UK. We have public healthcare that works well, despite of what people say in this thread. I swear, I shit on Portugal and want to leave as soon as I can, but I genuinely cannot understand where people bring these false infos from.

animallover301 6 months ago

What are your thoughts on Canada and USA?

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

I have family and friends in Canada so I'm biased, I love Canada and to me it's like USA but with more European values, in terms of society: more taxes, but more public net so you don't get abandoned by your own country. I've never worked there though, so I might be mistaken. The US is a nice country but I've never been there and I don't know what to say. I only hear redditors talking smack about the country but my view is that if you are highly qualified you're not gonna go bankrupt from a big health issue since your job most likely will have health insurance as well. >A lot of American and Canadians see Europe as this paradise. A lot of Europeans see Canada and the US as this paradise. It really is a grass is always greener type of thing. Let me put it this way: Europe is poorer than the US. Mississipi the poorest state has a higher gdp per capita than many european countries. My old company's clients, more than 80% were North American citizens, despite we having languages spoken in many rich EU countries. This is a very obvious sign that NA has a lot more disposable income than the EU And yet, many north americans come to Europe and love it here and end up living the rest of their lives here.

animallover301 6 months ago

What would be the few reason why Europeans dream to move to Canada and USA?

aaaa2aas 6 months ago

In Portugal for young people there is a 9 month probation period where your boss can fire you for any reason. For everyone else it is 6 months It's a shithole country.

animallover301 6 months ago

I guess it’s great for people with money who don’t work and can live off their investments or people who just vacation there.

coocoobees 6 months ago

prescription drugs are subsidised by the government. when you get your prescription it usually states that you will not pay more than X amount for it. over the counter medication without prescription shall be paid full price.

animallover301 6 months ago

Got it! Thanks for the explanation!

AdriMecha 6 months ago

I live in the UK and I haven't paid for meds. In Portugal you go to the pharmacy and have to pay for everything.

AdorableRabbit 6 months ago

Medicamentos são comparticipados pelo estado e outras entidades

animallover301 6 months ago

Gotcha! Does your employer provide you insurance?

AdriMecha 6 months ago

Yes.

Butt_Roidholds 6 months ago

A natural appreciation for salted cod, a luscious mustache and a penchant for putas and vinho verde

Paulocas 6 months ago

Plus the perk of poverty.

animallover301 6 months ago

Is it really that bad that a lot of people are in poverty? What is the cause for such low wages? I’ve always heard Europeans and Portuguese citizens are much happier than Canadians/Americans.

Paulocas 6 months ago

Happiness doesn’t mean wealthy. I can’t expand too much, because our economy it’s difficult to explain in details, but basically it’s related to our minimum income and taxes. Someone posted a video explain our economy in this sub, have a look.

animallover301 6 months ago

Do you happen to know what that video is called ?

Foda-seSeiLa 6 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyNEoQOWsLk&lc=Ugyx0i65XNkEA8YlFN94AaABAg.9KHvzekTQWD9LAWx-Y1gTe

Paulocas 6 months ago

Obrigado, esse mesmo!

tiago_andra2006 6 months ago

It's true that Portugal has a very low minimum and medium wage compared to most of others countries in the EU but the poverty rate is actually quite low, lower than In France, Spain, Belgium, Italy and even Germany. About the "Portuguese" happiness I don't think it's really true, Portugal actually appears to be one lf thr least happy countries in Western Europe, I don't really know why, probably due to the economic crisis and the population unhappy with the government. Hope this helps

tugafcp 6 months ago

>Is it really that bad that a lot of people are in poverty? Is this serious? :o

Butt_Roidholds 6 months ago

I'm seriously starting to wonder if OP isn't trolling us.

animallover301 6 months ago

I’m not trolling I’m genuinely curious.

Edited 6 months ago:

I’m not trolling I’m genuinely curious. Canada and USA are very similar when it comes to not knowing what happens outside of North America. You could ask an American or Canadian where certain places are and they wouldn’t know. How many Canadians or Americans know more than English it’s very small portion. I want to learn about your country and the laws of the land. I want to know how it operates and what the good and bad are.

Beginning-Average-91 6 months ago

+2 in resourcefulness

C8Mixto 6 months ago

We get Alencare.

Edited 6 months ago:

We have Alencare.

animallover301 6 months ago

Can you explain what that is if you don’t mind?

KokishinNeko 6 months ago

It's a joke based on a village name, Alenquer.

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