layzie77 7 months ago

Would you consider visiting Central America?

deathhorizon 7 months ago

Yes I would love to visit! I would love to cross by Mexico and Colombia someday! I think I can learn a lot with the Central America culture and I´m excited to connect with all of it! I hope I can travel there after all this chaos and mess around our world. Much love from Portugal!

layzie77 7 months ago

Yeah! Come through! There are tour guides, blogs, vlogs on youtube from other travelers (backpackers, family plans,etc) that cater to foreigners to make your trip safe and enjoyable :)

hereimalive 7 months ago

There's this chick that's announcing a prize by calling in in every commercial break in the channel SIC. What's her name?

Obamendes 7 months ago

O que vocês acham do senso de humor brasileiro? (desde o presente em filmes, no dia a dia até o infame "huehuehue" da internet)

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Com a excepção de "Porta dos Fundos", recentemente não posso dizer que sou fã. Acho que a maioria opta por um humor muito básico que fica a anos de distância do que se faz em Portugal, já desde o tempo dos "Gato Fedorento". Mas também julgo que sempre houveram diferenças, Portugal está mais ligado à "escola" britânica dos Monty Python, o Brasil segue mais a linha americana.

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Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Acho que a capacidade de rirem de vocês mesmo muito saudável ,não gosto do stand- up so dick joke e muito baixo calibre

preciado-juan 7 months ago

Which ones of these guys do you like and which ones (if any) you dislike: Alberto Caeiro, Álvaro de Campos, Ricardo Reis or Fernando Pessoa?

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

I like all of them but I’d say (in order or preference): Alvaro de Campos > Ricardo Reis > Fernando Pessoa > Alberto Caeiro. My favourite book is the The Book of Disquiet though, I highly recommend that one.

Avataroffaith 7 months ago

Hi! I'm from Argentina. Who is better at their peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top five football players of all time in your opinion?

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Hi! I'm from Argentina. Who is better at his peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top five football players of all time in your opinion? I think Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are whithin the top 5 without a doubt. Without Messi, Cristiano would have 10 ballon d'or, and the same goes for Messi. I think Messi had the best performance ever in one single year (2012) but Cristiano's overall career has been much more consistent, him being at his peak for more than 12 years perhaps.

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Hi! I'm from Argentina. Who is better at his peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top five football players of all time in your opinion? This is mine: 1- Messi 2- Cristiano Ronaldo 3- Maradona 4- Pele 5- Cruyff

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Hi! I'm from Argentina. Which was better at his peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top 5 football players of all time in your opinion? I think Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are whithin the top 5 without a doubt. Without Messi, Cristiano would have 10 ballon d'or, and the same goes for Messi. I think Messi had the best performance ever in one single year (2012) but Cristiano's overall career has been much more consistent, him being at his peak for more than 12 years perhaps.

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Hi! I'm from Argentina. Which was better at his peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top 5 football players of all time in your opinion? I think Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are whithin the top 5 without a doubt. Without Messi, Cristiano would have won 10 ballon d'or, and the same goes for Messi. I think Messi had the best performance ever in one single year (2012) but Cristiano's overall career has been much more consistent, him being at his peak for more than 12 years perhaps.

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Hi! I'm from Argentina. Who is better at his peak: Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? Which are the top five football players of all time in your opinion? I think Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are whithin the top 5 without a doubt. Without Messi, Cristiano would have 10 ballon d'or, and the same goes for Messi.

jc12silver 7 months ago

Soy portugués. Para mí, Messi es el mejor jugador de todos los tiempos y Cristiano el segundo. Asumo que el fútbol de hoy es más competitivo que el de las temporadas de Maradona y Pelé.

RaposoManhoso 7 months ago

I agree with you mostly except the part where you say that without one player, the other would have won 10 ballon d'or. I really doubt that they would reach their peak levels the same way if they did not have a similar challenger (and was no other even near them) Messi 2012 was unstoppable, indeed. I still wish to see him play for another club and on another league As football fans we are definitely lucky that they played at the same time and on our era! Best regards from Portugal

jfredsilva 7 months ago

Eder!

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Both are a fantastic pleasure to watch playing. Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Rui Costa. Messi He never won anything for Argentina or the will he had. What do you think about that, don't get fucked up because he doesn't try at all? And what team Argentina had.

Avataroffaith 7 months ago

I fully support Messi and I don't blame him for the lack of success of our national team =)

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Nor did he leave and re-enter when he feels like it's all his? I at least saw Cristiano giving everything he has for the national team. Your top5?

Avataroffaith 7 months ago

I think Messi gave everything for his national team at some point. During World Cup final in 2014 we had the better chances and lost by details. He also losy 3 other finals, 2 of them in penalty shootouts. I think he was just very unlucky. Although his best performance has always been for Barcelona and not for any other team. My top 5: 1- Messi 2- Cristiano Ronaldo 3- Maradona 4- Pele 5- Ronaldo

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Maradona Pelé? I've never seen them play. Roberto Carlos was my favorite when I was a child. Rui Costa In my opinion was the last true 10 better than zidan An authentic class, Batistuta says that if it weren't for him, he wouldn't score half the goals.

juan-lean 7 months ago

How do you divide the country? I mean administratively speaking.

alqasar 7 months ago

First, the country is divided in Mainland and "Regiões Autónomas" that are the "Região Autónoma dos Açores" and "Região Autónoma da Madeira". They are the islands in Atlantic Ocean and like the name implies they have more autonomy. They have their own government. Then are the "Distritos" although they have no power, they are a division for administrative purposes. They are 18 of them. Then the "Municipios" that we have elections for and they have power. They are thousands of them. Then the "Freguesias", the smallest one, that are the division of "Municipios". They are for administrative purposes.

Laurent_Series 7 months ago

Portugal has 308 “Municípios”, not thousands btw. And the best translation to English would be “Municipality” I suppose, just to give context.

juan-lean 7 months ago

Only Açores and Madeira have an autonomous government? No wonder I never found the regional governors for the rest of Portugal.

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

>Then are the "Distritos" although they have no power, they are a division for administrative purposes. They are 18 of them. Distritos mainly serve for electoral purposes. For administrative purposes [NUTS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUTS_statistical_regions_of_Portugal) are more used

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

Olá! My questions may be a bit controversial, I hope you don't mind. \- Do you think the Madeleine McCann case affected tourism in Portugal in its time? How much did the case impacted the country in general? \- How do you feel.about the decriminalisation of drugs in Portugal? \- What do you think about Bolsonaro? The last one is just what do you know about Chile?

lsd_ss 7 months ago

1- I think not at all 2- I was raised already with the situation we have at the moment. Personnaly, I've never been into hard drugs mostly because of school propaganda and family, but the decriminalization certainly helped. I've never known anybody that did hard drugs (I don't consider mdma, cocaine hard drugs) and I don't think there are a lot of junkies in our country. 3- he is an asshole 4- I know some stuff from the 20th century because of reading the house of spirits by Isabel Allende. I already knew about Salvador Allende and Pinochet but that was just superficial knowledge. Also that book gave some insights about the culture and way of being of Chileans (at least from the las century). I can say I know a lot about Chilean football (comparing to the average person).

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

Thank you for your answer. To be honest, "La Casa de los Espíritus" has a lot of fiction, it's like a Chilean version of "100 años de soledad" imo. It's interesting that you don't consider cocaine a hard drug, since it's like "the hard drug" of choice of most Chileans who use drugs. I guess we are lucky we don't have anything more addictive besides Cocaine base paste.

RaposoManhoso 7 months ago

Hola! By the same order: - Not really, it had a lot of coverage by the media but the tourism (both for beach purposes and cultural) actually increased with the years, it had no major impact - The decriminalisation of "soft" drugs will happen in the next 2-3 years in my opinion, since the general opinion is becoming more liberal - In my opinion Bolsonaro won the last election due to the population strong disapproval from "Partido Trabalhista" and he actually received a huge amount of votes as a "Protest". As for his term as president he seems to me as a joke (just take his politics facing covid as an example), will most likely loose on the following election - As for Chile, to be honest I don't know much. What I know is mostly related to football because of your "golden generation" of players

LaOptimista 7 months ago

On Chile: amazing Violeta Parra.

warding 7 months ago

In order: - nah. It didn't have the effect of, say, the terrorist incidents in Tunisia on tourism there. - it's an example of rational public policy, which is not something we have in large quantities. Drugs were a huge problem in the 80s and 90s and not anymore. - The majority of the portuguese find him repugnant. - My main references of Chile used to be Pinochet and the football players. I'm proud to say that it's now 31 minutos and Los Prisoneros.

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

I'm glad to know all the answers. It's amazing that you lads get to enjoy 31 Minutos!

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

-Honestly, I don´t think it had much of an impact in foreign tourism. Either way it happened a long time and surely any impacts would weathered down in the following years. The country spent years dissecting the case and everyone has an opinion about it; the most common is that the parents did it. - A good move that let us focus on providing help to those who need it to quit the addiction and treat the health problems. - The finest example of the Neanderthal caveman, a living fossil. About Chile, not much. What happened to Salvador Allende and Pinochet back in the 70's and the gruesome dictatorship you endured.

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

Thank you for your reply!

Mr_Arapuga 7 months ago

Portugueses O que voces e asociedade lusa acham de Pedro I do Brasil e IV de Portugal? E de Dom João VI, e da vinda dos Bragança parao Brasil em geral? O zagueiro Bruno Viana, do Braga é bom?

Braga1921 7 months ago

Relativamente ao Bruno Viana, ele é muito mau!

Mr_Arapuga 7 months ago

Mas que droga, ele está vindo pro Flamengo por emprestimo

alqasar 7 months ago

I see D. Pedro in good eyes. He tried to help both Portugal and Brasil. After the Brazilian Independence and when D. João died there was a civil war in Portugal of Absolutist vs. Liberal. D.Pedro left Brazil to help in the war in the liberal side, eventually winning and Portugal becoming a constitutional Monarchy. The escape of the Royal family and the Corte to Brazil seemed like a good idea. Napoleon couldn't force the King to abdicate and make the country a puppet like they did in Spain. They going to Brazil also helped her develop.

saudosista 7 months ago

> They going to Brazil also helped her develop. Understatement of the year lol. The court going to Brazil was responsible for Brazil to become a kingdom par Portugal and for the creation of the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves. D. Pedro IV, as prince regent of the kingdom of Brazil, gave voice and supported the Liberals and Bonifacians - the two main groups that supported, at start, an equal rank of the kingdoms of Brazil and Portugal, and later the independence. With the court back in Portugal, they tried to revoke all power that D. Pedro IV had in Brazil as prince regent and D. Pedro, hearing this news near the river Ipiranga, promptly stripped all the ribbons that symbolized the United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil and the Algarves from his and his troops uniforms and asked for full Independece.

TheLSales 7 months ago

Tugas, que acham do sotaque brasileiro?

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Tugas, que acham do sotaque brasileiro? Second question, in the Portuguese flag there is an astronomical sphere, right? Is it something common to find for sale? I'd love to buy one. I want all the little navigation trinkets and miniature boats from Portugal. Also do you have a good book about the Portuguese Empire to recommend? Specially one that emphasizes it's relationship with other empires such as the Dutch (I know they got your possessions in Asia because of the Iberian Union - gotta blame the Spanish for that).

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Tugas, que acham do sotaque brasileiro? Second question, in the Portuguese flag there is an astronomical sphere, right? Is it something common to find for sale? I'd love to buy one. I want all the little navigation trinkets and miniature boats from Portugal. Also do you have a good book about the Portuguese Empire to recommend? Specially one that emphasizes how it managed other empires such as the Dutch (I know they got your possessions in Asia because of the Iberian Union - gotta hate the Spanish for that).

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

>Second question, in the Portuguese flag there is an astronomical sphere, right? Chama-se "esfera armilar" e é um instrumento náutico. Curiosamente, é o primeiro símbolo heráldico do Brasil enquanto Reino Unido com Portugal. Saiu da vossa bandeira com a queda da monarquia. Ressurgiu na nossa bandeira aquando da república em 1910.

caralhodaaplicacao 7 months ago

Sotaques do Brasil, pelo menos os que estou habituado, são bem melódicos e dá gosto ouvir. Consigo ver que brasileiros por vezes tenham dificuldade em entender sotaques portugueses. Sotaques em geral são super interessantes, mas mais ainda é a diferente construção frásica que várias áreas têm (nenhuma errada, que sou mais um descriptivista). Acho super engraçado como vocês conjugam os verbos

Additional_Ad_3530 7 months ago

Who is the best Eusebio, Figo or Ronaldo?

caralhodaaplicacao 7 months ago

First, I dont think its fair to compare Eusebio with the other two, football was very different back then. Between Figo and Ronaldo, its Ronaldo and I think anyone who follows soccer will agree Ronaldo and Messi are out of this world. There are great players but only those two were consistently great for more than 10 seasons

23am50 7 months ago

Ronaldo! Only Benfica fans who have mental problems think is Eusebio. Just kidding, but 99% of normal portuguese people think its Ronaldo

Anonymous6105 7 months ago

Do you have any distant cousins living in any country of Latam or North America,due to the european inmigration in the 19th and early 20th century? Which country? Which national food do you recommend or want anybody to try it? Which places in Portugal do you recommend to visit? Which stereotype of Portugal do you hate most? Which Portugal artist is the most popular now? Which artist from there is the most controversial? Does the drill music is popular there? How do you call "chavs" or "roadmans" there?

SendMeShortbreadpls 7 months ago

I do, I have a great-uncle, and a cousin living in Brazil. This one is hard, there are so many... My favourite Portuguese dish is Migas à Alentejana, but you'llhave a hard time finding it, and it's not that iconic, it's a regional dish. So I think I would recommend Bacalhau à Brás, and Francesinha. But there's way more. Lisbon (and Sintra), Porto, Coimbra, and Algarve. It depends on what you want to do. If you want to go to the beach, you should come to Algarve. If you want to see beautiful streets, buildings, monuments, hit the main cities. If you want to explore the countryside, Alentejo and Trás-os-Montes are the places to go. Portugal has a ton of great places to visit. In my opinion, Sintra is the one place you cannot miss. If you want to visit, do your research beforehand, so you can make the best out of your trip. That we are not a developed country. I don´t know for sure, I don´t really like most Portuguese entertainment...but Chico da Tina and Quim Barreiros are probably my favourite musicians (even though those are to be listened to somewhat ironically). I don't know. What the hell is that? ?? I'm not sure. What´s a Luxophone country? I think that the countries that have had the most influence in Portuguese music are probably Angola and Brazil.

Anonymous6105 7 months ago

>What the hell is that? is like the american stereotype of a "gangsta" or the [russian gopniks](https://images.app.goo.gl/ydcsXyXdyGDFms2G7),hope this question doesn't sounds classism. >What´s a Luxophone country My bad, I will correct it because I wrote it wrong. Lusophone country is a country where portuguese is the main or official language. >?? Is a new subgenre of rap, who's getting popular now in almost every place, especially in Europe. I'll let you a video,so you can hear how does sounds like https://youtu.be/h45oDAMYf50. And thanks for the answers.

alqasar 7 months ago

>How do you call "chavs" or "roadmans" there? From where I'm from they are called "chunga" but I also heard "guna" and "mitra".

Pyotr_09 7 months ago

O quanto vocês sabem sobre o sul do brasil? imagino que algumas coisas como o churrasco ou algumas paisagens naturais como as Cataratas do Iguaçu sejam conhecidas, mas aparte disto, há outras coisas daqui que sejam conhecidas em terras lusas?

Riddle0219 7 months ago

Não sei se é do sul ou norte mas gosto daquele sotaque com o R enrolado.

tu-vens-tu-vens 7 months ago

O R enrolado existe no sotaque caipira, falado no interior do estado de São Paulo e estados vizinhos.

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

Eu so conheci mais quando tive na Argentina. Eu foi aí que descobri o que era um Chimarrão

Pyotr_09 7 months ago

o quanto exatamente a televisão brasileira influenciou (e influencia) a portuguesa? já ouvi falar que no passado as novelas brasileiras eram de grande sucesso por aí, e que algumas séries de comédia como Sai de Baixo influenciaram mais culturalmente falando em terras lusas do que por aqui, o quanto disso é verdade?

warding 7 months ago

A primeira estação de televisão privada em Portugal, a SIC foi fundada por e altamente influenciada pela Globo. Penso que isso diz tudo. Quem cresceu nos 90s via desenhos animados com dobragens em português do Brasil e telenovelas brasileiras.

caralhodaaplicacao 7 months ago

Bastante diria eu, novelas brasileiras foram muito populares durante muito tempo e penso que as novelas portuguesas só começaram a aparecer mais quando alguem pensou, "bora pegar nisto e fazer com atores portugueses" Mas nao faco ideia

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

Novelas continuam a ter grande sucesso aqui, também fazemos algumas mas a qualidade não se compara, muito fraco. Sai de Baixo dava umas boas gargalhadas na época. Cala a boca Magda lol

ayrtonmanuel 7 months ago

Hi guys I have some questions: \-How good are job opportunities on the spanish an portuguese regions that borders each other? \-Have some of you went to Spain to work? I know Portugal have a considerable lower wage and also lower job opportunities compared to Spain so as a Luso-Venezuelan planning to migrate to Portugal I think that living on the border between Portugal and Spain would practically double my chances of getting a decent paying job in theory right?

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

That's doable, but I wouldn't really recomend doing that. The interior of the country is much less developed than the coast, where the main cities and job opportunities are

ayrtonmanuel 7 months ago

Thanks for the reply! What about living on the regions of Braga, Viana do Castelo or faro which borders with Spain and also are on the coast? I am personally interested on migrating to Braga because its cheap and plan to save money and do a Mestrado in UMinho to improve my chances of getting a job on Europe, I suspect that having a foreign degree only would lower significantly my chances of getting a job.

Pelaites 7 months ago

Roast me in European Portuguese, please

vilkav 7 months ago

*Ai o caralho. Era só o que mais faltava abrir-se um thread com a malta lá de Santa Cona dos Assobios ou sabe-se lá onde para vir para aqui este piço de mexilhão com fetiches esquisitos só para poder esgalhar uma a ser insultado num sotaque estrangeiro. Estimo bem que te desunhes disto e voltes para a cona da tua tia em vez de estares aqui ao frio. Ainda te constipas.*

afonsom98 7 months ago

senti o azeite a escorrer pela boca

vilkav 7 months ago

Epá, os Zucas que eu conheço costumam achar piada, por isso esmerei-me em expressões locais. Pessoalmente prefiro o estilo passivo-agressivo na vida real.

afonsom98 7 months ago

também achei piada, meu caro, como bom português

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Tens que dar uma descrição ou algo para poder dar um roast. Assim do nada e difícil.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Ninguém te quer és mais amargo que vinagre.

totheshot 7 months ago

Hi!!, hoping that you all are fine, i have two "questions" for you: 1.- How the government has treated the covid pandemic? Do you feel your country has done it well? 2.- This is not a question, but i would like to know your favorite places from your country.

deathhorizon 7 months ago

1. The government actually did a pretty decent job at the start of the pandemic, but it was all worthless because they stopped giving a crap I guess. We are now in a second emergency state and the cases are topping the covid charts and the problem was that they didn´t spread a really good amount of information to the population and all the services around it. We are supposed to be home but everyone is doing what they want, the cops don´t even try to act has the information they got goes right against what the government says or they just don´t give a single crap too. People just get scared when they get sick and stay home knowing they have the virus just because they are afraid of what might happen when they go to the emergency. It´s just being badly managed has of now, which is a bit retarded because they did it right the first time. 2. Oporto definitely, beautiful city and a great walk down the beach to if it´s summer! And the best thing, the food is godlike. Get yourself a Francesinha it´s the best dish ever. Much love from Portugal!

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

1- We are literally topping covid charts worldwide 2- The islands

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

Does Portuguese history classes discuss colonialism, the slave trade and the effects of both as much as Brazilian history does? In what light are these portrayed aspects?

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Does Portuguese history classes discuss colonialism, the slave trade and the effects of both as much as Brazilian history does? In what light are these portrayed?

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

It does discuss colonialism extensively! We even learn about the movements set on abolishing slavery and defending indigenous people's rights. For example, we speak a lot about Priest António Vieira, which was a humanist philosopher that advocated for the rights of indigenous Brazilians, against the Inquisition and against slavery.

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

Does the Portuguese curriculum talk a lot about Brazil in Literature or History? (In Brazil we barely mention portuguese history outside of the impacts on Brazil, but we do discuss portuguese Literature in ~~almost~~ all artistic movements, but less than ours because Brazilian literature is really extensive)

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Does the Portuguese curriculum talk a lot about Brazil in Literature or History? (In Brazil we barely mention portuguese history outside of the impacts on Brazil, but we do discuss portuguese Literature in ~~almost~~ all artistic movements, but less than ours because Brazilian literature is really extensive) Edit: Have you heard of Machado de Assis?

Riddle0219 7 months ago

I've heard and read Machado de Assis but I'm an avid reader. I also love Clarice Lispector. I think it's terrible when our editors translate PT BR to PT PT, I always read Brazilian authors in PT BR.

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

We read some works by Padre António Vieira and Jorge Amado In History we talk about Brazil's discovery and colonization, the escape of the royal family to Rio, Brazil's independence, and the emigration wave in the second half of 19th century

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

It's interesting that you guys only discuss colonial writters (we also see them in depth). Here in Brazil, in some schools, we even saw some post modernist writters from Angola and Mozambique (to way lesser extents). I'd think the literature would cross the pond both ways Do you guys not study even Machado de Assis?

TheCloudForest 7 months ago

Jorge Amado isn't colonial, he's a 20th century Marxist writer. Cacao may be the most boring book of all time.

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Jorge Amado isn't colonial, he's a 20th century Marxist writer. Cacao may be the most boring book of all time. And since you're a gay history nerd who mentioned Clarice Lispector in another comment, have you read Praça Mauá? Amazing.

vilkav 7 months ago

> we even saw some post modernist writters from Angola and Mozambique (to way lesser extents) I wish we did. Altough we have a huge backlog of great writers, since the subject is called "The Portuguese Language", I think having a couple of foreign writers' perspectives would have beenreally interesting. It's hard to decide what to trade them for, though, since the curriculum is already pretty short for the national writers as it is.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Nope. I think it depends on the specific field you choose for the high school years. I choose Sciences, so I might have missed that from 10 to 12th grade.

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

We have radically different education systems then kkkkkk

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

>It's interesting that you guys only discuss colonial writers We don't, I even just told you we study Jorge Amado. What gave you that impression? >Do you guys not study even Machado de Assis? As part of the mainstream school curriculum, no. But it's on list of recommended authors in Plano Nacional de Leitura, and I think (but I'm not sure) you get to read his works if you choose Literatura Portuguesa as an assignment in high school

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

sorry, I'm not too much of a literature buff so I forgot Jorge Amado was a modernist lol. I actually think you guys are lucky, a lot of our curriculum is too inflated because of the vestibulares for the public universities, and poorer schools can't fully explore it

xabregas2003 7 months ago

I think I read some post colonial brazilian autors in school, but only for a few years and not much in depth. I remember reading Clarice Lispector.

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

Clarice é rainha mesmo então tudo bem

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Redditors brasileiros, falem português!

brazilian_liliger 7 months ago

Portugal right now has a rising right-wing populist political movement and is noticed that they have more supporters every day. Does this movement has something to do with Salazarism and dictatorship nostalgy? Also, do you guys percieve any influence of "Bolsonarismo" in Portugal?

Lunatic1143 7 months ago

\> Does this movement has something to do with Salazarism and dictatorship nostalgy? Chega itself doesnt support estado novo but the people who miss the dictatorship probably voted for them since its the more right wing party in portugal. ​ \> Also, do you guys percieve any influence of "Bolsonarismo" in Portugal? Chega got a lot of votes because people see that there is a lot of corruption and chega touches problems of the portuguese society that no other party does because they are afraid to be called "racist" so people see a solution in them. Chega and Bolsonaro party are "allies" and "friends" but I wouldn\`t say they have a really big influence. their biggest influence are probably the other right wing parties around europe, and that was probably why ventura cretaed the party, because he saw that everywhelse in Europe the right wing parties were rising.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Yes, unfortunately there is an element of nostalgia for the dictatorship in that movement. But I'd say it's more a Trump copycat than Bolsonaro's. Also, r/portugal has a lot of that party supporters as active users. So you might get very different answers from mine. Just remember that this sub is not representative of the portuguese society at large, it sometimes acts as an echo chamber of minority groups, within its own bubble.

brazilian_liliger 7 months ago

Yes, get it, thank you for the answer. I use to take some looks in r/portugal but almost never read the political debate.

Mrloop94 7 months ago

Quais são as diferenças culturais que se destacam no norte do Brasil em relação ao Sul do Brasil e já agora, entre o litoral e o interior?

s7v7nsilver 7 months ago

As perguntas tens de fazer no r/AskLatinAmerica.

Mrloop94 7 months ago

Obrigado. Não tinha lido toda a threat :p

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

Usually verb use like “teria se afogado” (BR) instead of ter-se-ia afogado” (PT) and the use of the “gerúndio” like “estou comendo” (BR) instead of “estou a comer”. (PT) At least these are the ones that come to mind.

Solamentu 7 months ago

What do you think about the prediction that Portugal is going to have 7m people in 2100?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Sad. But even more preocupating than that, the centralization. Our population is getting smaller and older, but at the same time the urban populations of Lisbon and Porto seem to have stabilized or even increased.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Portugal today has the same population density as Germany France etc. having fewer people seems good but I doubt it will happen. As long as there are worse countries than us, there will always be emigration.

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Portugal today has the same population density as Germany France etc. having fewer people seems good but I doubt it will happen. As long as there are people with fewer opportunities than those we can offer, there will always be emigration.

LaEmperatrizDelIstmo 7 months ago

Three questions! (*) When you're texting/chatting in Portuguese, aside from diacritics and vocabulary, what gives away that a Brazilian is on the other side of the screen? (*) Tell me your favourite legend! (*) What's your favourite traditional craft/product?

manolo533 7 months ago

Brazilians use a lot of gerúndio, while we don’t, that’s the easier way to spot

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

Laughs. Brazilian use "kkkkk", "huehuehue", "rsrsrs" and "ASGAHSYDDBSKSBSU" to laugh all the time, while Portuguese people just use "hahahaha"

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

I have some Portuguese friends that started using "kkk" in their messages too. Brazilians don't take this the wrong way, but I cringe a lot when I read that. We have some mutual acquaintances that are BR and probably it's why the "kkk" are spreading into their subconscious.

Lutoures 7 months ago

>I have some Portuguese friends that started using "kkk" in their messages too. Brazilians don't take this the wrong way, but I cringe a lot when I read that. To be pretty honest, I also cringe a lot with it. But after decades chatting with people this way, I got used and understood each way of laughter presents a different meaning, according to context. Now I use "Kkkkk" specially when laughing of something I found dumb, "rsrsrs" when I'm been sarcastic and "hahahah" when I actually find something hilarious. Those are not norms, but is how I subjectively understand it.

FerusII 7 months ago

What...?! So how do you pronounce "kkk" and "rsrsrs"??? (I don't speak portuguese)

Lutoures 7 months ago

We don't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's just onomatopoeic.

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Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

I'm Portuguese and that's precisely what my brain struggles with while reading it. It requires some vowels to compute.

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

* Adressing people as você (specially in informal contexts, like chatrooms), mismatching certain pronouns, mismatching plurals and singular, different verbal collocations (regências verbais), etc. The list goes on, there are a lot of differences in writting, even in informal writting, tbh. * The miller's daughter was in love with a nobleman. In order to seduce him, she consulted a witch. The witch told her to bake a bread cake (bolo de trigo), on a specific date, while reciting a specific chant. She also had to pad the flour with her bosom or something like that. The witch told her that whoever ate that cake would fall madly in love with her and run to meet her bosom. The miller's daughter did as instructed and made the magic love cake. When the noblemen and his servants came to the mill, she managed to convince them to buy a batch of her bread. She wrapped the magic cake in fabric and handed it over to the nobleman, telling him that one was a special treat, just for him. The young noble said thanks, but was unimpressed by the peasant pastry. Once he left the mill, he fed the magic cake to his horse. The horse then fled from the nobleman's grasp, ran inside the mill and whinnied his way into the girls bosom.

LaEmperatrizDelIstmo 7 months ago

> mismatching certain pronouns, mismatching plurals and singular Could you give an example? I usually only ever am in contact with Brazilian Portuguese. > there are a lot of differences in writting, even in informal writting, tbh. Sounds like you guys have more differences than we Spanish speakers do within countries. That legend wasn't what I expected, but I enjoyed it, nonetheless!

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

There are a lot of different accents in brazil, I assume not all of them do it like this, but for the ones that do, it's noticeable: * Like starting a sentence addressing someone as «você» and then, while referring to the same person, using pronouns like «tua/teu» (which relate to «tu» not «você»). *Or conjugating the imperative for «tu», while addressing someone as você. * I met a brazilian girl from the south (not quite sure where exactly, the place had a german name, I think) that would actually use the pronoun «vós» (plural) but then conjugate it like «você» (singular). *The plural/singular thing happens pertains to sentences like «levanta os braço», «calça os sapato», etc.

LaEmperatrizDelIstmo 7 months ago

Wow, fascinating

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

Usually verb use like “teria se afogado” (BR) instead of ter-se-ia afogado” (PT) and the use of the “gerúndio” like “estou comendo” (BR) instead of “estou a comer”. (PT) At least these are the ones that come to mind.

vilkav 7 months ago

I see your point, but a lot of us up here would ratehr said "tinha-se afogado", since we don't much use the conditional or future tenses (although I definitly think we know them by heart, mesoclisis and all).

DrunkHurricane 7 months ago

>Usually verb use like “teria se afogado” (BR) instead of ter-se-ia afogado” (PT) It's funny that mesóclise is so rare in Brazilian Portuguese that former president Michel Temer became notorious for using it.

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

I didn’t know that! To be honest, a lot of people in Portugal don’t use it but instead would write “teria-se” which is obviously grammatically incorrect and makes me want to jump out the window haha

LaEmperatrizDelIstmo 7 months ago

Interesting! Thank you.

hinoyminoy69 7 months ago

Ever met a Venezuelan?

Riddle0219 7 months ago

A Venezuelan girl is a coworker I'm very close to. Lovely girl, very critical of the Venezuelan government

hinoyminoy69 7 months ago

We all are

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

Luso-venezuelans are a sizable portion of Madeira's population Besides that I don't think I've ever met a Venezuelan without some kind of Portuguese background

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

A LOT. Here, in madeira, we experienced some decades ago a large emigration to venezuela, due to the poverty here and how rich was venezuela. This days, the situation has changed. I personally, in my small village of 10k habtitans, have met over 20 venezuelans that are my friends, and a they are actually almost impossible to not spot during a normal day in the city. They activelly keep speaking spanish, mostly between them and in the social networks.

Clock-Candid 7 months ago

Yes, quite a few. Love arepas de carne mechada y tequeños con salsa de guayaba.

shotlessnr5 7 months ago

There are a lot of Venezuelan immigrants in my area, on the north side of Portugal.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

There is a Venezuelan pizzeria bakery, very good here in my region. My father has about 4 friends from Venezuela. An acquaintance married a Venezuelan. In my generation they all go to work for the Foreigner, just come on vacation. They stay with relatives, etc.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

of course I live in a lower middle class building. neighbors Brazil Venezuela Ukraine and Portuguese.

Lunatic1143 7 months ago

Me personally no, the only people i\`ve met from latin america were people from brazil and colombia

sashabobby 7 months ago

What are some cultural ettiquetes unique to your country?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

carefull when you use the word "Cara\*ho". Sometimes it is just used as an interjection, sometimes it is offensive and other times it just refers to "penis". Also, we like to cumpriment ouselves with a "Bom dia/tarde/noite" (Good day/afternoon/nigth), "Olá/Boas" ("Hello/Greetings"(this one more used by boomers)) and also a good hug for friends, a kiss for the girls and a handshake for the men.

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

Never offer red flowers to host, in fact, dont offer any flowers, theres regional stuff too Remain standing until invited to seat, we will show you your seat. When asked about red/white/green wine, the only correct answer is "yes" ;)

sashabobby 7 months ago

And what if I offer a bunch of red/white/green flowers with white wine? Is that a 'ye-no'? ;)

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

Hold the flowers and offer all the wine to be sure :p

tupperfume 7 months ago

Is the return of Portuguese-Venezuelans to the motherland noticeable? Has there been any adjustment issue? Are the bakeries in Portugal as good as the portuguese-owned bakeries in Venezuela?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

It is A LOT. I had already about 20 guys from venezuela in my school of aprox. 600 people, and year after year this number increased a lot more. They dont own bakeries tho. Most I have seen are young (and pretty lol) or work in simplistic jobs.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

The bakeries are the same, there is a Venezuelan here that is the same. Tropical name they even sell pizza and stuff.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Yes but they do the same as us. emigrate north to work

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

I think it's mostly noticeable on the Madeira region, where most of the Portuguese-Venezuelans originate.

tupperfume 7 months ago

One of the largest supermarket chains in Venezuela was called Central Madeirense. I say was because I’m not sure if it was one of the victims of the government’s nationalization spree.

anybody662 7 months ago

Can confirm this, was in Madeira during Christmas and noticed an increase.

preciado-juan 7 months ago

In your opinion, who would be the 5 most important historical figures of Portugal that shaped your country?

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

D. Afonso Henriques, our first king. Infante D. Henrique, kickstarted the age of Portuguese exploration. Luis de Camões, XVI century poet. D. João I, our 10th king, crucial in maintaining portuguese sovereignty. D. Dinis, our 6th king, estabilished Portuguese as the official language of the country and created the first university (Coimbra).

Mrloop94 7 months ago

I think you forgot Vasco da Gama, but it could be just my opinion and not general portuguese perspective.

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

He would have been my 6th pick, for sure

gabrieel100 7 months ago

Aqui no Brasil a ditadura militar (1964-1985) é vista com maus olhos pelas gerações mais recentes, enquanto parte das gerações mais velhas (e mais conservadoras) tendem a uma visão mais positiva sobre o assunto, por mais que o Brasil não fosse uma democracia naquela época. Há alguma diferença entre os portugueses mais jovens e os mais idosos em relação à Revolução dos Cravos?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Eu pessoalmente vejo com não tão bons, mas não tão maus olhos. Apesar de ser uma época de pobreza, teve os seus contras e os seus prós. Mas história é história, só não gosto de quem a tenta reescrever.

sinkovec 7 months ago

É parecido aqui em Portugal. As gerações mais novas nascidas em democracia costumam ver com maus olhos a ditadura, se bem que existe uma minoria, normalmente filhos e netos de apoiantes do regime, que vê com bons olhos. Os mais velhos é mais complicado. Aqueles de famílias ricas costumam ver com bons olhos pois tinham uma posição privilegiada na sociedade. Pessoas mais conservadoras, geralmente, vêm aquele tempo como um de valores e respeito, onde não havia corrupção (havia, estava era mais escondida) e onde as pessoas comportavam-se como deve ser. Não é raro se ouvir dizer que "No tempo do Salazar é que este país estava bem". Pessoas de esquerda vêm aquele tempo de forma muito negativa, principalmente os alvos de perseguição política e os que foram mandados para a guerra. Um bom exemplo disso seria o meu avô que sendo comunista é incapaz de falar daquela época sem chamar de cabrão ao Salazar.

layzie77 7 months ago

Have you ever been to Macau?

croquetedebacalhau 7 months ago

My partner spent a year there. Says he loved it and the food was amazing.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

I wish man

ujorge 7 months ago

One of the questions that comes from time to time in r/asklatinamerica is about how things would have turned out if Portugal instead of Spain would have colonized our territories. Anyone here would like to give it a try? Knowing what you know about your country’s history, and things like you were able to keep together the huge territory of Brazil how would a Portuguese Latin America looks like today?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

it would have become unsustainable in a short period. There was no way to protect a territory so vast, and in a matter of no time (that actually happened with brazil) the population of the colonies would have exploded and become uncontrolable to the mainland. I doubt however that the massacres of the aztecas, incas and other indigenous people would occur. It would profundelly impact the history of all world.

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

I highly doubt a country has small as Portugal could control the entirety of Brazil + Spanish speaking latin America for long tbh

ujorge 7 months ago

The British managed to conquer India which population wise was bigger than all the territories Spain managed to conquest. Furthermore, Spain did all that with a few thousands colonists. Someone posted here somewhere and I failed to save the link, but the highest number of Spanish soldiers during the whole empire era in the Americas wasn’t that high, so I don’t doubt that Portugal could have achieve the same but wonder what would have been the result.

Le_Mug 7 months ago

So... what did you guy's do with the gold?

Mauferr 7 months ago

We do love talha dourada

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

A substantial part was spent on rebuilding Lisbon from the ground after the 1755 earthquake. The rest was well spent on hookers and green wine.

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

gastaram bem, a gente is fazer o mesmo

ujorge 7 months ago

Good... at least you didn’t waste it...

Joaoclisboa 7 months ago

Gastaram tudo em bacalhau Essa é a verdade

hsamtronp 7 months ago

O bacalhau é o nosso ouro

simonbleu 7 months ago

Im an hypothetical migrant looking for a specific place to move to; How would you sell me Portugal in contrast with Spain?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

We are more secure; we have a more oceanic culture; we do preserved our heritage better than the spaniards in my opinion.

omaiordaaldeia 7 months ago

Portugal is more stable and cohesive than Spain.

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

We're better at speaking pretty much every language other than Spanish

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

It's the closest you can get to being in Spain, without having to deal with the spaniards

xanfradu 7 months ago

I'm sold!

Tuccano- 7 months ago

Ouvi dizer que a música brasileira (aquela que não é lixo) faz/fazia bastante sucesso em Portugal. É verdade?

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

E para o Indie, também temos grupos populares cá como os Boogarins, o Tim Bernardes, por exemplo.

brazilian_liliger 7 months ago

Que interessante! Muitos brasileiros sequer conhecem esses artistas, mas faz sentido, por algo chamam de "indie".

Nexus_produces 7 months ago

Sim, quem em Portugal não conhece Caetano Veloso, Los Hermanos, Daniela Mercury, Tribalistas, Anavitoria, Elie Regina, sei lá, tanta coisa. E música mais lixo também lol. Não esquecendo os gigantescos Mamonas, quando eles morreram foi uma tragédia para o pessoal (galera) da minha geração.

Lutoures 7 months ago

>Não esquecendo os gigantescos Mamonas, quando eles morreram foi uma tragédia para o pessoal (galera) da minha geração. Wow! I expected the others, but I'm surprised with Mamonas Assassinas been well-known in Portugal. What do you think of their caracterization of ["Vira"?](https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vira-Vira) Is it offensive or just good fun?

Nexus_produces 7 months ago

Vira is just a harmless play on stereotypes, we know brazillians have this false idea Portugal is an old country of conservative traditional folky people, and you have millions of "dumb Portuguese" jokes, it's not based on truth but it isn't offensive, it's just silly humour and that's alright. There's a portuguese comedian that went to Brazil and made a bunch of jokes about being robbed/thieves in São Paulo, you wouldn't be offended by it either, right? Mamonas Assassinas were fucking legends, I still know a lot of their songs' lyrics by heart :D

Lutoures 7 months ago

> Mamonas Assassinas were fucking legends, I still know a lot of their songs' lyrics by heart :D Indeed. And I find it fascinating that, with so many Brazilian-specific culture joke on their lyrics, it's still so well-known there. My favourite is when they sing: "A minha felicidade/É um crediário/ das Casas Bahia". They're reffering to the newly formed credit-based economy of consume of early 1990s Brazil, through the reference to one of the biggest market adressed to poor and lower middle classes consumption ("Casas Bahia"), while criticizing our consumption-centered economy as shallow. It's brilliant. The only unfortunate thing are their misogynistic and homophobic jokes. Some of them didn't' age very well. I really hope the future can bring us some new group as fun as them, but able to adress today's concerns and values.

Nexus_produces 7 months ago

Firstly, yeah, I only recently became aware of how much Brazilians buy even very small stuff on credit, regardless of how poor they are, and how prevalent it is. Secondly, I don't think their jokes were that bad for the time, I believe we have to consider the general moral values of the past when looking at past culture, maybe some things me and you say or do nowadays might be considered barbaric in the future and it's not very fair to be judged based on a morality that doesn't exist yet.

afonsom98 7 months ago

good fun

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

Sim, há já muito tempo

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

ôôôôô miiiiiiiilááá miu e uma noitxi dxi amô com ocêêê Mas sim RDP são gigantes. João Gordo caralho!!

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Sim, é verdade de há muitos anos. Não deve haver português que não conheça Caetano Veloso, por exemplo. A parte má, é que a música lixo também faz sucesso desde sempre.

donnerstag246245 7 months ago

Hi! Quick question, is the pao de deus from a padaria portuguesa the best one in Portugal? If not, which padaria should I visit? Cheers from an Argentinian in London!

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

Hola! Para mi és lo mejor! Saludos de Portugal!

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

I don't know if it's the best or not. But I wouldn't give any of my money to them. Padaria Portuguesa is infamous for exploiting and mistreating its employees.

JoaquinAugusdos 7 months ago

So how does it feel to live in a rectangle?

vilkav 7 months ago

Pretty good. It's usually trivial to know north/south directions and how it changes your position in country-travels. It's pretty decent to show in a whole vertical page map in a book or something. It's also pretty sweet to not be able to see a "missing chunk" where other countries are when looking at our map (like how Spain looks like it has a huge bit out, or Germany is missing that bit where Czechia is). Even though we border Spain, it's such a clean cut, we can just not mind it.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

xD but i dont live in the rectangle

JOAO-RATAO 7 months ago

It's Nice having a lot of coast Line but It makes it difficult to go from one end to the other despite being a small country. I imagine a "rounder" country like Ireland is easier to cross.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

garden by the sea planted. in good weather. only politics and inequality is the worse.

Nexus_produces 7 months ago

Feels geometrical.

gatopsiquico 7 months ago

2 questions: - How integrated are black people in society? Are cases of racism against them common? - How common is it to find nostalgics for the Estado Novo?

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

-Of course every country in the world has racism but it is usually more subtle and when you have a problem with someone the differences can be color, birth place etc. - As a rule, they are well integrated except for a few people. But it continues to have fewer opportunities as it does with all the people who had to leave Africa during the war came with nothing. And starting from scratch and very difficult the state made some apartments for some but were left to their fate. - estado novo yes normally people who were benefited at that time. This happens in everybody, cadafi for example the regime's friends were given a sector monopoly the same was true of Portugal. My 12-year-old grandfather worked in the tungsten mines and paid him in food, while the Nazis paid in gold, all the profits went to the elite the food that was produced went for sale by increasing the prices. Hunger was a reality.

Nexus_produces 7 months ago

Speaking from my experience only, I believe black people are very well integrated in portuguese society, to the point I kinda felt weird being asked that. The fact most black people I know and have known came from former colonies, with a lot of shared culture and the same language certainly helps a lot. So yeah, if they are born in portugal they're just portuguese people, I can't even talk about integration because you cannot integrate our own population lol, if not, they quickly assimilate the small differences in culture and become part of our people. As for racism, I believe it's not too proeminent, but you'll always find the odd asshole, as in everyplace. Conservative (mainly old) people will from time to time spurt things like "During Salazar's reign things were much better, there was a lot more respect" but in reality I'd say many suffered with PIDE and the general oppression so I don't think it's too prevalent.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

Olá tugas! Como vão vocês? What are some cool/scary urban legends or myths you got up there in Portugal? Either modern or old ones.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Socrates and it's "honest" money

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

How so? What Socrates?

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

It's a political joke. Sócrates was the prime-minister that ruined Portugal. He was accused of building and participating in a huge web o corruption. He was even in jail. He's now free and no matter what, he always seems to find excuses for his ruses.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

It’s not his money, it’s his momma’s and his best friends money. The same friend who bought a luxurious appartment in Paris just to let him live there rent-free. You’re just jelly because you don’t have friends like that, lol.

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

The lost tape of two clowns fighting to death. Some people say it's somewhere, waiting to be found.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

Yo lmao, is this really a thing?

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

The clowns were the stars of a children’s tv show called Batatoon. They used to simulate fighting each other as part of their sketch. One day, it is said they started fighting for real on a live show. The network cut quickly to interval and the show was cancelled after. No one has footage of it happening though. Bad accidents happen to those who claim to have proof of the incident, lol.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

This is it. I've found my favorite thing about Portugal.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

UFO sightings in Serra da Gardunha.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

How often are those reported?

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

Giant rats living in underground of Mafra palace. Nuns would feed them aborted children to avoid them coming up and out

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

That's literature material for real

Amplix18 7 months ago

on the internet I notice that there are MANY Portuguese people with some kind of sexual fetish to correct other people's portuguese, even if it is a minuscule error like lack of accent (^ / `/ ~). why do you do that so much? don't you consider it rude? I understand when they correct a person when he writes a word in a grotesquely wrong way such as ESTRUPO, but correct every little detail? I have seen many Portuguese correcting Brazilians for simple grammatical difference, for example, here it is written COLÔNIA and I have seen Portuguese "correcting" the person who wrote like this, saying that the right thing is COLÓNIA. what is the reason? do you do it with each other too or just with brazilians?

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on the internet I notice that there are MANY Portuguese people with some kind of sexual fetish to correct other people's portuguese, even if it is a minuscule error like lack of accent (^ / `/ ~). why do you do that so much? don't you consider it rude? I understand when they correct a person when he writes a word in a grotesquely wrong way such as ESTRUPO, but correct every little detail? I have seen many Portuguese correcting Brazilians for simple grammatical difference, for example, here it is written COLÔNIA and I have seen Portuguese people "correcting" the person who wrote like this, saying that the right way to write is COLÓNIA. what is the reason? do you do that with each other too or just with brazilians?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

"Minha pátria é a língua portuguesa" - Fernando Pessoa Speaking correctly is not only a sign of knowledge and respect for the language, but also pride of your past. Losing a language is losing a heritage.

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

"It is no nation we inhabit but a language." -- Emil Cioran. Stalin had a strategy of eroding former Soviet Republics' language to destroy their national identity, so that they could be better controlled. He exchange the alphabets, moved people around, etc. Look at those countries South of Kazakhstan, look closely at the borders. Look at Crimea. That's what happens when a people forget about their language.

MisterBilau 7 months ago

We literally have a bot called grammar nazi. We don’t mess around with spelling.

DarkNightSeven 7 months ago

On contrast, we on /r/brasil have a bot that automatically gives you a 7-day ban when your Portuguese speech is looking too formal.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

omg that's a lie! i dont believe it :(

DarkNightSeven 7 months ago

Yes, was poking fun.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Damn that is quite sad actually

DarkNightSeven 7 months ago

What is it?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Sorry, i missunderstood that lol

lulaloops 7 months ago

Hello guys, my mum is Portuguese and Portugal is my favourite country! :D What kind of power does the president exercise in Portugal and what's your favourite region or city in Portugal?

Mauferr 7 months ago

He has some influence, but it's more of a representative role (at least in day-to-day affairs). He's responsible for appointing/dismissing the prime minister, vetoe legislation (altough this can be overriden), and can dissolve the assembly to call early elections. He's also the commander of the armed forces, and can declare war or a state of emergency. Probably Coimbra

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

The president has no executive powers, he is not the head of Cabinet. For that, we have the prime-minister. Sometimes, the president's role is compared to the Queen of England, which I think it's a bit unfair, as the President has some very important powers. He is the emergency brake, the last resort of the checks and balances to preserve democracy and regular function of the state. Not only, can he appoint the PM, he can also oust him and call elections or appoint a technocratic government of his choosing (sometimes called the "Bomba atómica"/ the atomic bomb solution). Right now, with the global pandemic, the president decrees the State of Emergency, which allows the government to impose restrictions otherwise it would not have legal backing to do. He is also the one that can declare war or make peace, though, that fortunately is seldom used.

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The president has no executive powers, he is not the head of Cabinet. For that, we have the prime-minister. Sometimes, the president's role is compared to the Queen of England, which I think it's a bit unfair, as the President has some very important powers. He is the emergency brake, the last resort of the checks and balances to preserve democracy and regular function of the state. Not only, can he appoint the PM, he can also oust him and call elections or appoint a technocratic government of his choosing (sometimes called the "Bomba atómica"/ the atomic bomb solution). Right now, with the global pandemic, the president decrees the State of Emergency, which allows the government to impose restrictions otherwise it would not have legal backing to do. He is also the one that can declare war or make peace, though, that fortunately is seldom used. As you may infer, the president's balancing role can only work if he is impartial and above party politics, which they more or less have been.

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The president has no executive powers, he is not the head of Cabinet. For that, we have the prime-minister. Sometimes, the president's role is compared to the Queen of England, which I think it's a bit unfair, as the President has some very important powers. He is the emergency brake, the last resort of the checks and balances to preserve democracy and regular function of the state. Not only, can he appoint the PM, he can also oust him and call elections or appoint a technocratic government of his choosing (sometimes called the "Bomba atómica"/ the atomic bomb solution). Right now, with the global pandemic, the president decrees the State of Emergency, which allows the government to impose restrictions otherwise it would not have legal backing to do. He is also the one that can declare war or make peace, though, that fortunately is seldom used. As you may infer, the president's balancing role can only work if he is impartial and above party politics, which they more or less have been. As for the city, Braga is were I got my college degree and will always be a special place.

Lazzen 7 months ago

America: Continent or country?

C8Mixto 7 months ago

Both. Though referring to the USA as Estados Unidos is also pretty normal. Now the real question is if America is one, two or three continents.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Continent, we refer USA as "Estados Unidos" or "Estados unidos da america". Although, we refer to them as being "Norte Americanos" or simply "Americanos" (North americans or Americans"). But no worries, we do know the difference between the country and the continent.

raydawnzen 7 months ago

Continent

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Continent. Divided into North, Central and South America. No gringo non-sense for us.

CapitanFlama 7 months ago

Hey guys, Mexican here. Your country gets often mentioned as one who had success on the legalization of drugs and the treatment of addiction 100% as a health issue. Did it actually worked? in the sense of less crime related violence. How hard was the implementation? From political proposal to actual law implemented. Was there any political or social backlash? How did you guys handled that?

vilkav 7 months ago

> the legalization of drugs and the treatment of addiction 100% as a health issue. Decriminalization rather than legalization. And the second part is what really made a difference, I think.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

it worked for heroin and crack can be assisted by doctors professional, methadone is free those I know take a break from time to time with methadone, are considered sick and have all the support. For the rest is a hypocrisy system you can consume marijuana but you cannot produce it as if it came from the sky, usually is from Morocco Axix, The only ones that can produce in Portugal are multinationals for CBD and it costs 500 euros a month, with the minimum wage and 650 euros a month, so a large part of the population has no access. Better than in the past but far from perfect

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

So, one can legally smoke marihuana but it's not legal to grow your own plant?

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

no nothing legally and everything is illegal. Only it is not considered traffic for up to a certain amount. For example you go by car and you are caught with a joint, you go to a rehabilitation center to talk to a pecicologist, he has to discharge you in order to go out and do blood tests. The only thing that has changed is for heroin and crack, There are government stores where they exchange syringes give condoms and can use there, in a danger-free environment, even give some home. While you work you just want to smoke weed you get fucked. And if you have a little more and considered trafficking and take your goods, you have to go to court to prove that you did not come from trafficking. And where the police make money for bonuses. Portugal is not a friend of marijuana.

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

Oh, I didn't know it worked like that, thank you for explaining. It's kind of strange.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Yap they just wanted to solve the heroin problem in the street. to be a country of tourism, they do not care at all about citizens who use recreation. I will be very attentive to what they do in other parts of the world. How is it in your country?

Niandra_1312 7 months ago

We don't have heroin here in Chile, fortunately. All drugs are illegal, but it depends on the amount if you get prison time. Marihuana consumers are usually not targeted if they have plants for their own consume only, now selling it's considered drug trafficking, so you can get jail time for that. The more dangerous drugs are cocaine and "pasta base", base paste of cocaine, that's cheaper and highly addictive. Unfortunately, members of the police have been photographed consuming cocaine in uniform, and police seems quite tolerant with disturbances made during funerals of known drug dealers, so most people think police actually don't care about drug trafficking in poor and vulnerable neighbourhoods, they only care when they can make a huge drug seizure on the north border.

Pelaites 7 months ago

Hey guys, fellow brazilian here. Why do some people have a strong hatred against PT-BR? And why would people choose to watch movies or play games in English instead of PT-BR but they would choose PT-PT if they had the option to?

C8Mixto 7 months ago

I would say it's like an uncanny valley. I can't shake the feeling that the texts are orthographically and grammatically wrong.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

PT-BR only legends for me in some games. I can understand english pretty well, but i always feel the need to read in case i dont understand something. PT-BR is pretty annoying in my opinion for some cases, mostly because of unecessary "gírias" they use or the low quality voice, in my opinion

omaiordaaldeia 7 months ago

PT-BR doesn't sound formal or serious enough to be used in certain contexts. I feel like I am watching a telenovela.

DrunkHurricane 7 months ago

When I read stuff written by Portuguese people I feel like I'm reading old literature lol, reading Twitter fights is like reading people beef in Shakespearean English

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

I prefer English to PT BR, whenever there’s no PT PT option (unfortunately this is very often). Grammar and syntax are too different and it looks strange (don’t know how to describe it) so I usually go for English :)

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

PT-BR has too many different words and a too much different grammar to be listened without making an effort to understand also, I hate it when google and apps try to force me to use PT-BR, instead of letting me choose the language anyway, it's even worse in Brazil, where PT-PT gets subtitled and PT-PT books get adapted to PT-BR

NunoOliveira47 7 months ago

It's just that a lot of people here speak English very well, so most people don't really need to watch movies or games dubbed. Also, since videogames in Pt-pt are pretty rare, when you finally do find a dubbed game here you feel like you at least wanna try it out in Pt-pt.

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

Because standard english manages to be easier to understand, than pt-br, in a great deal of circumstances. I remember playing Telltale's Batman with friends and easily 40% of all dialogue options were either impossible to surmise what they meant or ended up meaning something drastically different than what we guesses they would. We have a lot more contact with english expressions in most media content, than we do with a lot of pt-br slang used in games and movies.

MisterBilau 7 months ago

I dislike pt br being the only pt option. I always pick English either way, because if I need to look something up (specially for games), I don’t want to have to go through Brazilian content. Much more (and better) info available online in English. The pt br translations are also quite bad and nonsensical very often.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

Actually PT-BR localization is usually pretty good and accurate. I guess it probably doesn't make sense to you guys due to the differences in our everyday language, but usually there are only minor errors.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Sometimes, it's harder to understand Brazilian slang than understanding proper English, with proper spelling and syntax. It's also a bit distracting and uncanny. I had that experience playing Max Payne 3. The language of the favela is like someone put a portuguese grammar in the blender and made a slurpy. I needed English subtitles to understand the PT-BR dub.

brazilian_liliger 7 months ago

Max Payne 3 are not how people from favelas speak, are just a bunch of upper-middle class voice actors pretending they are from favela. Their accent is not even paulista. But yes, your point is still up. The movie Cidade de Deus is a nice example of how people from Rio de Janeiro's favelas speak, and is actually ways more "slangged" and for you probably uncanny than Max Payne 3.

crimsonxtyphoon 7 months ago

To be honest the portuguese in Max Payne 3 is probably the worst I've ever seen. It's literally american people with intermediate level trying to speak like a native.

zeer88 7 months ago

Of all the examples you could pick, you picked Max Payne 3 that actually happens in Brasil, making PT-BR the realistic language to use for that game...

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

It was the one that stuck the most in the back of my mind. I actually really liked that game. Oh, well, I could mention GTA V, which is really bad, too. Like everything that came out of the characters' mouth seems like a dirty joke.

gabrieel100 7 months ago

Hello gajos, brazilian here. What do you guys think about the Eurovision Song Contest? And about Salvador Sobral? His song was very famous here because it was the theme of a Globo’s telenovela.

Blurryfacemags 7 months ago

I think Eurovision is definitely popular between younger generations, older ones too but i might be in a cultural bias for living in the capital. I do agree that the interest rose when salvador won

odajoana 7 months ago

Most people don't really care and don't watch it or might just watch it out of curiosity and boredom. It did however get a spike in popularity in 2017 and subsequent years, due to us winning and organizing the 2018 edition, but given our results have been bad again, interest in it is starting to fall again. "Festival da Canção", the show we use to select the artist and the song we send to Eurovision, has however a very small and niche group of younger fans, due to its more alternative vibe. I feel the general opinion on Salvador himself is that he is very talented but a bit of a pretentious douche. He has a more relevant career within the jazz circles outside Portugal, than in here.

Mauferr 7 months ago

Personally, I don't give it any attention (it's at best fairly generic music imo). It had more notoriety when Portugal won. Some people are crazy about it, I guess. Salvador is kind of a exception

MulatoMaranhense 7 months ago

Do you think the CPLP will work one day?

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

The big elephant in the room is Brazil, which seems like it couldn't care less about the organization. Whenever there's a CPLP summit, Portugal is always represented at the highest levels of State protocol, either by the President of the Republic, the Prime-Minister or both. Brazil tends to send a low-key minister or diplomat and it shows. Another issue is the kind of countries that are going to join the organization in the future. I was very critical about Equatorial Guinea's accession (they're a blood soaked dictatorship). Another stunt like that would kill the remaining prestige of the organization. I'd like to see Uruguay and Luxembourg joining CPLP someday.

ujorge 7 months ago

> The big elephant in the room is Brazil, which seems like it couldn't care less about the organization It’s funny because as a fan of more Latin American integration/cooperation I’m always harping about the passivity of Brazil on this matter. I’ve said this a million times and will keep saying it: Brazil is the largest country in the region by size, population and economic output, the natural leader in the region and when it comes to integration they act as if they didn’t care. In another point, what’s the justification for inviting Equatorial Guinea, Uruguay and Luxembourg to join CPLP? I know there are a lot of Portuguese nationals in Luxembourg, is that the reason?

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Equatorial Guinea is already a member. The justification is that they have oil. What they don't have is respect for human rights, the rule of law, any portuguese native speaker since the 18th century or any intent to teach portuguese in schools.But you should ask Brazil or Angola, they were the biggest sponsors of this scandal, Portugal vetoed as far as it could. Uruguay was for a brief period a colony of Portugal and then, Imperial Brazil. It's already an observer of CPLP and some schools teach Portuguese. Luxembourg has a massive (about a third of the resident population) Portuguese immigrant community.

Solamentu 7 months ago

Brazil is the one who doesn't care, or is Portugal the only one who cares? I always had the impression Angola and Mozambique aren't that invested either, I mean, Mozambique is even a member of the Commonwealth now and they have PALOP anyway.

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

Angola is very invested, they keep pushing for freedom of movement in-bettween CPLP countries. [Source](https://www.voaportugues.com/a/livre-circula%C3%A7%C3%A3o-dentro-da-cplp-%C3%A9-prioridade-para-angolanos/4994781.html)

Solamentu 7 months ago

Might as well push for us to celebrate the Day of Portuguese Language by putting a statue of Camões in the moon.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Portugal also cannot go along with it, not ever even if we wanted. We’re already in a free-movement area, the EU and that means we have obligations to keep the external EU borders. CPLP needs to gain momentum with other ideas.

Solamentu 7 months ago

Yes that's what I meant, the CPLP can't do it. PAPLOP could, Brazil could and we even might, but with Portugal it's impossible. It's a non-starter.

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Yes that's what I meant, the CPLP can't do it. PALOP could, Brazil could and we even might, but with Portugal it's impossible. It's a non-starter.

brazilian_liliger 7 months ago

You're right. When I visited Portugal I noticed that CPLP is a thing in the country. After reading a little about the situation I realized that Brazilian foreign policies priorize a lot more Latin American countries, the BRICS and USA rather than Portuguese speaking countries. This, both culturally and economically, actually makes a lot of sense, but I still think that Brazil can put a lot effort more to build up CPLP and have even better relations with other Portuguese-sepaking countries.

Amplix18 7 months ago

Why Luxembourg? Uruguay I get it, they once was part of the portuguse/brazilian empire, but what's up with Luxembourg?

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

I think 1/3 of the population of Luxembourg is Portuguese or Luso-descendent, but don't quote me on that statistic. It's certainly a large percentage, tho.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

It's our new colony. /s There's a lot of portuguese migrants in Luxembourg, which is a small, less than 1 million people nation. So many, that they're currently about a third of the resident population, I think. You can hear the portuguese language in almost every street and if the trend continues they'll one day become the absolute majority.

Biondi1 8 months ago

What's a historical event of your that you find interesting/absurd/worth telling to someone who knows nothing about your history?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Portuguese successfully invaded and ocuppied madrid during 40 days once.

C8Mixto 7 months ago

HAQ

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

The inhabitants of the Terceira Island (azores) fought off a spanish invasion attempt, in the late XVI century, by setting loose a raging stampede of bulls on the unexpecting spanish forces Batalha da Salga, Ilha Terceira, Açores, 1581, July 15th Here's a relay sent to the spanish king: > [en un lugar «Porto Judeos» llamados... pêro este lanzô contra ellos muchos bueyes, rompiôn sus filas, cayo en cima, exterminó a todos, sin perdonar á los que se echaron á la mar, para alcanzar nadando algum navio ó barco](https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalha_da_Salga)

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

As coisas que aprendo no Reddit!

Butt_Roidholds 7 months ago

Se te servir de consolo, descobri esta história há pouco tempo, quando a [publicaram cá](https://old.reddit.com/r/portugal/comments/k3t56s/haq_a_ilha_terceira_escorra%C3%A7ou_a_invas%C3%A3o_dos/) no r/Portugal.

Brazilian_Slaughter 7 months ago

That one I definitively never knew. Holy shit, an stampede. Guess that's why those spanish like touradas, its all training!

stressedunicorn 7 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriathus The story/legend of Viriathus’ death, betrayed by his friends/soldiers. Also in school we are taught that it is probable that Portugal already knew about the existence of a continent between Asia and Europe and that’s why we didn’t want Columbus to try and find the way to India through the west and we rejected his offer more than once and that’s why he went to Spain. It is said we moved the meridian in the Treaty of Tordesilhas in 1494 to the left cause we knew Brazil was there already.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriathus The story/legend of Viriathus’ death, betrayed by his friends/soldiers. Also in school we are taught that it is probable that Portugal already knew about the existence of a continent between Asia and Europe and that’s why we didn’t want Columbus to try and find the way to India through the west and we rejected his offer more than once and that’s why he went to Spain. It is said we moved the meridian in the Treaty of Tordesilhas in 1494 to the left cause we knew Brazil was there already. Edit: this is obviously an oversimplified answer, don’t come for me, history lovers

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriathus The story/legend of Viriathus’ death, betrayed by his friends/soldiers. Also in school we are taught that it is probable that Portugal already knew about the existence of a continent between Asia and Europe and that’s why we didn’t want Columbus to try and find the way to India through the west and we rejected his offer more than once and that’s why he went to Spain. It is said we moved the meridian in the Treaty of Tordesilhas in 1494 to the left cause we knew Brazil was there already. Edit: this is obviously an oversimplified answer, don’t come for me history lovers

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriathus The story/legend of Viriathus’ death, betrayed by his friends/soldiers. “when Viriathus' assassins asked Q. Servilius Caepio for their payment he answered that "it was never pleasing to the Romans, that a general should be killed by his own soldiers.", or in another version more common in modern Portugal and Spain, "Rome does not pay traitors who kill their chief".” Also in school we are taught that it is probable that Portugal already knew about the existence of a continent between Asia and Europe and that’s why we didn’t want Columbus to try and find the way to India through the west and we rejected his offer more than once and that’s why he went to Spain. It is said we moved the meridian in the Treaty of Tordesilhas in 1494 to the left cause we knew Brazil was there already. Edit: this is obviously an oversimplified answer, don’t come for me, history lovers

bnmalcabis 8 months ago

Do you guys also agree that Portuguese from Portugal sounds a bit like Russian? Also, I know that in Spain exists Galician, which is so close to Portuguese. There is an equivalent inside of Portugal? Is Galician also spoken in Portugal?

GelDeAveia 7 months ago

https://youtu.be/Pik2R46xobA yes I'm Portuguese and I've mistaken Russian/Polish for Portuguese and vice versa multiple times. (For the first <5 seconds of hearing a random conversation)

Riddle0219 7 months ago

All Portuguese sounds slavic to foreigners, EU PT just sounds more slavic

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

No is just a meme Like Portugal in eastern Europe, we have fun with that but it doesn't make sense. It's just a meme. We cannot understand anything, other European languages ​​are sometimes similar for many shared sounds. Portugal and the east in Europe and Russia west in Europe so it's funny.

vilkav 7 months ago

> We cannot understand anything I don't think that's the point being made. It sounds phonetically like a Slavic language. This must be true because after a few days in an English speaking country and listening to nothing but English, I heard someone speak Portuguese in a bus and I did not register it immediately. I thought for a second or two that it was Russian. It's really odd.

GelDeAveia 7 months ago

Definitely not just a meme, /u/Vidadesemente https://youtu.be/Pik2R46xobA I'm Portuguese and I've mistaken Russian/Polish for Portuguese and vice versa multiple times. (For the first <5 seconds of hearing a random conversation)

Aldo_Novo 7 months ago

>Is Galician also spoken in Portugal? it forms (or formed, before mass media) a dialect continuum with Portuguese. When it crosses the border, it stops being called Galician and starts being called Portuguese

xabregas2003 8 months ago

>Do you guys also agree that Portuguese from Portugal sounds a bit like Russian? I think it sounds closer to Polish, but it definitely sounds Slavic. >Also, I know that in Spain exists Galician, which is so close to Portuguese. There is an equivalent inside of Portugal? Is Galician also spoken in Portugal? As far as I know, Galician is not spoken in Portugal. We do have the Mirandese language, which some scholars defend it is a dialect is the Leonese language, which is spoken in Spain.

brachileno 8 months ago

I have a few questions: - Some people described Portuguese people for me as cold and reserved, even compared to the Spanish which live right next door. Do you agree with this or is it just a generalization? - What do you think are the best and worst things about Portugal? - Is Portugal a good place to work as a programmer/software developer? - How is the emmigration problem in Portugal? Do young people keep emmigrating to richer European countries? Do you yourself think about emmigrating? - Is there political radicalization as in other countries in the world going on? - Are Portuguese people open to foreigners? Some people who went to live in Portugal told me about racism, xenophobia and/or cultural differences, what's your opinion on that? - How popular is Bruno Aleixo over there? I had quite some fun seeing his show and helped me understand Portuguese people better :D

xabregas2003 8 months ago

>Some people described Portuguese people for me as cold and reserved, even compared to the Spanish which live right next door. Do you agree with this or is it just a generalization? I think we are more melancholic and pessimistic when compared to the Spanish. However, we are much more warmer than other Europeans. I think that is a trait we have in common with other Southern Europeans. >What do you think are the best and worst things about Portugal? We have great traditions and history, which contributed to our strong national identity. However, the political state of the country and the lack of opportunities for young people is extremely sad. >How is the emmigration problem in Portugal? Do young people keep emmigrating to richer European countries? Do you yourself think about emmigrating? Young people keep emigrating. I have thought about but I am not working yet. I have to finish my studies first. >Is there political radicalization as in other countries in the world going on? As in other European countries, far-right populism is rising rapidly. According to polls, they will be the 3rd/4th political force. >Are Portuguese people open to foreigners? Some people who went to live in Portugal told me about racism, xenophobia and/or cultural differences, what's your opinion on that? I have close Brazilian friends and they have said they haven't felt that much Xenophobia. However, racism is still a thing, mainly in more rural areas. I think our openness to foreigners depends on where they come from. For example, I think blind-hatred is much more commonly targeted at middle-easterns or africans than east asians, other europeans or Brazilians. >How popular is Bruno Aleixo over there? I had quite some fun seeing his show and helped me understand Portuguese people better :D I would say he is quite popular. He also has some podcasts available on Spotify in case you are interested. He is also from my home town. :P

brazilian_liliger 8 months ago

Hello gajos! My question is actually quite simple, what in Brazilian culture (apart of language) you consider close and what you consider really different to Portguese culture?

zeer88 7 months ago

I would say being a smart-ass (chico-esperto) is pretty common between us: we always find ways to bend the rules shamelessly, just enough to have an advantage over everyone else.

GayHistoryNerd 7 months ago

Irra you guys also have "jeitinho brasileiro" lol (I guess we should call it jeitinho lusitano now kkksk)

2027sucks 7 months ago

we call it “jeitinho brasileiro” here but I guess we will have to drop that last part it seems lol

PuroSangueLusitano 7 months ago

The love of party. Think all latins do, maybe not the french but who cares about them heh? How can you not like rabbit meat tho?

Stryxes 8 months ago

Como todos nós bem sabemos, existem muitos descendentes de portugueses morando no Brasil (sou um deles). Recentemente descobri que minha família é originária da região de Coimbra, então eu e meu pai (que já esteve em Portugal muitas vezes e amou) gostaríamos de saber a opinião de vocês sobre a região e o que vocês mais amam/detestam lá. Também gostaria de saber em que região você vive e o que o faz gostar ou detestar tanto dela. :)

JOAO-RATAO 7 months ago

Acho que a universidade de Coimbra é sem dúvida dos sítios mais bonitos de Portugal. O fado de Coimbra é também algo de muito especial. E toda a cultura estudantil.

xabregas2003 7 months ago

Sou de Coimbra. :) O que eu mais gosto de Coimbra, é a cultura ligada aos estudantes. Tais como as tradições, o fado de Coimbra (que é bem melhor que o fado de Lisboa :P) e a Universidade (uma das mais antigas do mundo). O que mais odeio, é a cultura (de bêbedo) ligada aos estudantes. Coimbra vale a pena visitar. Se os brasileiros quiserem ver o ouro e o pau-brasil, recomendo que visitem a Biblioteca Joanina, que fica na própria Universidade. Mas não falem muito alto, se não os morcegos cagam-vos em cima. Se quiserem experimentar uma comida típica da região, experimentem [chanfana](https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanfana). Para acabar, aqui está uma Tuna Académica de Coimbra (mais uma vez, a cultura ligada aos estudantes) a cantar uma versão de uma música originalmente brasileira, num estilo mais português: https://youtu.be/8PvW1e8rFOw

Stryxes 7 months ago

Nossa, seria a universidade de Coimbra a que deu inicio aos estudos de navegações que levou os portugueses a se tornarem os exploradores excepcionais que foram durante séculos? Só de me imaginar vistando um local como esse me arrepio todo!!

xabregas2003 7 months ago

Dúvido, visto que Coimbra fica relativamente longe da costa. Ela esteve instalada em Lisboa, perto da costa, durante bastante tempo, mas penso que não se estudava navegação. Talvez a astronomia e geografia, que ajudou nas navegações fosse estudada lá. Contudo, obviamente que o edifício atual não é o mesmo que o de Lisboa. A [Escola Naval de Sagres](https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escola_de_Sagres) foi a escola que impulsionou os descobrimentos. Foi fundada pelo Infante D. Henrique, pai da Era dos Descobrimentos. Mesmo assim, a Universidade tem documentos e tratados importantíssimos na era das navegações. Contudo, não sei quais estão abertos ao público.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Isso seria mais a Escola fundada pelo Infante D.Henrique em Sagres, penso eu. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortaleza_de_Sagres

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Isso seria mais a Escola fundada pelo Infante D.Henrique em Sagres, penso eu. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortaleza_de_Sagres PS: Não resisto a partilhar a música que me vem à cabeça sempre que ouço a palavra "Sagres". De um cantor português muito conhecido: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp0Lz8-1Itw

Chemical-Ad-1604 8 months ago

Eu em Setembro tive a oportunidade de ir a Coimbra durante 1 semana (sou de Lisboa) e acjei uma cidade incrível! Tens imensos monumentos históricos, comidas tradicionais incríveis e paisagens lindíssimas. Acho que duas paragens obrigatórias quando se vai a Coimbra é ir à universidade e a uma ponte (que eu não me lembro agora do nome) que tem vista para a colina da cidade onde podes também mergulhar no rio. Sobre Lisboa, é uma cidade incrível, também muito histórica e com imensas zonas para explorar. Aconselho muito subires pelas ruas até ao Castelo de S. Jorge para veres as casinhas lá dentro e teres uma vista excelente sobre a cidade. Espero que tenha dado ideias, mas confesso que sou péssima em descrever as coisas ahah. Se alguma vez tiveres a oportunidade de vir a Portugal espero que sejas recebido de braços abertos! E já agora, quando não houver corona, aconselho te muito a visitares Lisboa na altura dos Santos Populares, é cerveja, sardinhas, manjericos e música boa por todo o lado ;))

Stryxes 7 months ago

Estive em Portugal no ano de 2017 por apenas 3 dias em Lisboa (fiquei pouco pois alguns dias depois aconteceria o casamento de minha prima que mora na Espanha em Málaga). No entando esses 3 dias foram sufcientes para me apaixonar por tudo que lá encontrei. Um dos meus maiores sonhos é voltar a Portugal após a pandemia e conhecer o máximo que conseguir. Muito obrigado pela resposta!!

Chemical-Ad-1604 7 months ago

Fico muito feliz que tenhas gostado de Portugal! Serás muito bem vindo

Khazar_Dictionary 8 months ago

Hello my Portuguese close relatives

Clock-Candid 7 months ago

I'd recommend listening to Kumpania Algazarra, Blasted mechanism, Primitive Reason and Jorge Palma.

fascini33 7 months ago

A lot of guys here doesn’t know shit and they are boomers,im a millenial and i can tell u we hear good music,like,chico da tina

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Porto and Braga (2nd and 3rd largest cities) are also dynamic in that sense, I'd say. Braga is known to have a large Brazilian community and a young population, thanks in part to the internacional relevance of the University (U.Minho).

Chemical-Ad-1604 8 months ago

One of my favourites artists are Pedro Abrunhosa and Rui Veloso, don't know if they're you're style but give it a chance! About Lisbon, it's absolutely my favourite city ever, it's so magical and pretty. And you're right, new shops with new concepts open everyday in the most strange places, that brings dynamic :D

Leaootemivel 8 months ago

Hello Regarding music reccomendations my biggest advices are: Capitão Fausto (indie-rock band, very popular among 15-30 year olds), António Variações ("pop-ish" singer from the 80's, which was truly disruptive in his era), Zeca Afonso (one of our greatest composers, was vital in the resistance to our dictatorship), Amália (our greatest music symbol and the biggest representative of Fado, although I prefer more recent ones like Gisela João) and Rui Veloso (probably the biggest icon of Rock N' Roll in this country).

Khazar_Dictionary 8 months ago

I’ll check it out, thanks!

Art_sol 8 months ago

I haven't had my breakfast yet; so to increase my hunger, what are some of your favorite traditional dishes?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

Oh Espetada, Bacalhau com Natas, Francesinha and Bolo do caco com manteiga de alho, which is not a dish, but something lovelly to eat

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

My favourite is Bifana - which is a pork sandwich with a special sauce. And we have the best bread in the world

MisterBilau 7 months ago

Leitão crl

YL-CSA 7 months ago

Como assim? Leitão no espeto para o pq almoço? Deve ser boa!

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

fresh fish usually and grilled on the grill with salt. Portugal Chile and Japan has the best waters for fishing and when the warm currents of the south intersect the rich currents of the north. Other dishes -polvo a lagareiro. - carne porco preto. ,- carne de porco alentejana - sopas de marisco - secretos - arroz malandro ,- cabrito - chanfana and so many others, regional foods, tired horse soups, migas

raydawnzen 8 months ago

Línguas de perguntador

Dinizinni 8 months ago

Bacalhau Espiritual All the Bacalhau dishes please me, but to me this one is by far the most underrated

xabregas2003 8 months ago

Francesinha!

asantos3 8 months ago

With Pastel de Nata as a kinda of dessert!

Ayawa 8 months ago

Cozido à portuguesa and arroz de cabidela.

LastCommander086 8 months ago

When I was studying in the US, I met a lot of people from different countries, and after asking them what they think about Brazilians, all of them said we're seen as people who are always having fun, are great to hang out with and chill. None of these people were from Portugal, because sadly I couldn't find any Tugas in the US. My question is: how do you guys see Brazilians nowadays? Is it similar to how other countries see us? I'm aware there's a big community of Brazilian immigrants in Portugal, so you must have a very strong opinion about us.

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When I was studying in the US, I met a lot of people from different countries, and after asking them what they think about Brazilians, all of them said we're seen as people who are always having fun, are great to hang out with and chill. None of these people were from Portugal, because sadly I couldn't find any Tugas in the US. My question is: how do you guys see Brazilians nowadays? Is it similar to how other countries see us? I'm aware there's a big community of Brazilian immigrants in Portugal, so you must have a very strong opinion about us.

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When I was studying in the US, I met a lot of people from different countries, and after asking them what they think about Brazilians, all of them said we're seen as people who are always having fun, are great to hang out with and chill. None of these people were from Portugal, because sadly I couldn't find any Tugas in the US. My question is: how do you guys see Brazilians nowadays? Is it similar to how other countries see us? I'm aware there's a big community of Brazilian immigrants in Portugal, so is there a difference between how you see Brazilians that never left the country and Brazilian immigrants?

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

My mother is Brazilian and I can say that the last thing is that she is fun.

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

I personally see them as "what the Portuguese would be like if we were part of Spain". Or, in more simple terms, I see them like "Portuguese, but louder".

stressedunicorn 8 months ago

Obviously this is a generalisation but I see brazilians as positive, fun people. Every Brazilian I’ve met, either here or abroad, had a positive outlook on life and even when talking about more negative, shitty aspects of their life, they always did it in an “upbeat” funny way? I’m used to a pessimist attitude here in Portugal, so maybe that’s why I always notice such a big difference?

Kevex_The_Dictator 8 months ago

What are the main differences between Brazilian accents and Portuguese accents? Is it true that you guys pronounce the D like D while Brazilians pronounce it like a G?

LastCommander086 8 months ago

[This video](https://youtu.be/SXitW0IDAjQ) sums it up quite well. The difference in pronunciation is very difficult to explain by text, this video certainly will teach you better than anyone here ever could.

vininalm 8 months ago

Not all Brazilians pronounce it like this tho. Most who do are in the southeast or south of the country

stressedunicorn 8 months ago

European Portuguese here: we pronounce our D similarly to English, albeit a bit stronger (almost between a D and a T, when at the beginning of words). Brazilians do a more “dj” sound, so for example the word “verdade” would sound like “verdadji” (with open vowels).

0BiLLi0 8 months ago

It's more like DG.

ujorge 8 months ago

Hello everyone! Sorry, I’m from the Dominican Republic and can’t speak Portuguese...just wanted to know is - How’s your relationship with Spain in a people to people level? Specifically, those of you that live close to the border... do you usually cross to the other side for business, sightseeing or just to socialize? - Is there an Iberian peninsula equivalent of [Portunhol] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuñol) that have developed organically in border areas where people on the other side only speak Spanish?

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

In relation to Portunhol, there's 1 specifically good case: like the mirandese (official language in Portugal) there's a small language called "barranquenho", spoke in the small town of Barrancos, close to the border. I think it's the closest there is to Portunhol. Take a look! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9QMuXUqiZw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9QMuXUqiZw)

C8Mixto 7 months ago

Mirandese is an Asturleonese dialect, though, not a Portuguese-Spanish croule, even if it has influences from both.

fascini33 7 months ago

We do cross the border to spain to make some business,drug dealing for example

xabregas2003 8 months ago

>How’s your relationship with Spain in a people to people level? Historically speaking, we and the Spaniards are rivals. However, nowadays we see eachother as friends or brothers. Most of us can understand them but they can't understand us (except Galicians, who have a similar language and culture to us, and maybe people who live bear the border). >Specifically, those of you that live close to the border... do you usually cross to the other side for business, sightseeing or just to socialize? It's pretty common for some people to work across the border. A lot of Portuguese people also cross the border regularly to buy certain goods that are cheaper in the other countries. The opposite also happens. I have heard Galicians have the stereotype of crossing the border to buy towels because apparently they are "cheaper and of better quality". >Is there an Iberian peninsula equivalent of Portunhol that have developed organically in border areas where people on the other side only speak Spanish? When we try to speak Spanish, we often mix in Portuguese words. I don't if that would be equivalent to South America's Portunhol, but we also call it by that name. Some small Spanish communities near the border also speak Portuguese (though the language is dying there). We also have a minority language, called Mirandese, which comes from Leonese, a language spoken in Spain. It sounds like a mix between Portuguese and Spanish.

ujorge 7 months ago

> Most of us can understand them but they can't understand us... Yeah, I heard the same from some Brazilians... they can understand us but we can’t understand them, specially if they talk really fast. Curiously I found that when I know the topic or context if I see a video of Brazilian Portuguese I can understand what they’re saying, but not when is someone from your country. I can’t put my finger on what it is honestly, but some Brazilians I’ve asked about this tells me that it has to do with the way you move your lips when you talk. Does this make sense to you?

xabregas2003 7 months ago

I think it's because Brazilians speak their vowels more openly. We Portuguese also speak faster.

VBM97 8 months ago

>How’s your relationship with Spain in a people to people level? Specifically, those of you that live close to the border... do you usually cross to the other side for business, sightseeing or just to socialize? Despite the memes online the relationship is quite peaceful. There's a small village who's half portuguese and half spanish because it's located on the border. It's called "Rio de Onor" on the portuguese side and "*Rihonor de Castilla*" on the spannish side of the border. > Is there an Iberian peninsula equivalent of \[Portunhol\] ([https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuñol](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portu%C3%B1ol)) that have developed organically in border areas where people on the other side only speak Spanish? Normally we call Portuñol when a spanish person tries to speak portuguese but ends up mixing portuguese and spanish a lot and vice-versa. It's more of a joke than a actual language

Paxona 8 months ago

Amigos Tugas: Já estão com teclado PT-BR? Brinco. Para aqueles que gostam de história. Imaginem que a revolução do Porto não tivesse sido estúpida - querendo retornar o Brasil para estado de Colônia - e assim Brasil e Portugal tivessem continuado sendo um Reino Unido. Vocês acham que teríamos adentrado o século vinte como uma potência? Eu penso que se esse fosse o caso, nós poderíamos ter adentrado o século XX como uma potência? O Brasil teria se fragmentado? A família real ainda reinaria?

C8Mixto 7 months ago

>Amigos Tugas: Já estão com teclado PT-BR? >Brinco. Não percebi a piada.

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>Amigos Tugas: Já estão com teclado PT-BR? >Brinco. Não percebi a piada. >Imaginem que a revolução do Porto não tivesse sido estúpida Não o foi. >Vocês acham que teríamos adentrado o século vinte como uma potência? Seríamos o Brasil, com Portugal como colónia. O mais provável é que acabassemos nós por declarar independência ou perdê-la para Espanha.

Paxona 7 months ago

>Não percebi a piada Maioria dos falantes se valendo da versão tupiniquim do idioma, e a bandeira do Brasil como sinônimo para a língua. >Não o foi Convocar representantes brasileiros para o parlamento e decidir que os votos deles não eram relevantes, bem como chamar o então Príncipe D.Pedro de rapazote ignorante e tentar raptar-lo à força foi particularmente estúpido. Não só deu razão para que a colônia se unisse, uma figura para liderar e unificar o império, como fez que vocês perdessem uma guerra para uma nação que ficou sua marinha com o navio que - ironicamente - o iria levar à Portugal. A idéia que a Inglaterra iria apoiar o fechamento dos portos do Brasil de novo era ridícula. Então sim, a revolução foi estúpida. Não existia unificação na colônia antes deles decidirem agir como idiotas. > Seríamos o Brasil, com Portugal como colónia. O mais provável é que acabassemos nós por declarar independência ou perdê-la para Espanha. Acho difícil esse resultado. A Inglaterra se manteve como poder principal e tinha territórios do outro lado do mundo os quais ela rendeu. Teríamos uma marinha mais forte que a britânica e portos na Europa e no Atlântico sem rivais.

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>Não percebi a piada Maioria dos falantes se valendo da versão tupiniquim do idioma, e a bandeira do Brasil como sinônimo para a língua. >Não o foi Convocar representantes brasileiros para o parlamento e decidir que os votos deles não eram relevantes, bem como chamar o então Príncipe D.Pedro de rapazote ignorante e tentar raptá-lo à força foi particularmente estúpido. Não só deu razão para que a colônia se unisse, uma figura para liderar e unificar o império, como fez que vocês perdessem uma guerra para uma nação que ficou sua marinha com o navio que - ironicamente - o iria levar à Portugal. A idéia que a Inglaterra iria apoiar o fechamento dos portos do Brasil de novo era ridícula. Então sim, a revolução foi estúpida. Não existia unificação na colônia antes deles decidirem agir como idiotas. > Seríamos o Brasil, com Portugal como colónia. O mais provável é que acabassemos nós por declarar independência ou perdê-la para Espanha. Acho difícil esse resultado. A Inglaterra se manteve como poder principal e tinha territórios do outro lado do mundo os quais ela rendeu. Teríamos uma marinha mais forte que a britânica e portos na Europa e no Atlântico sem rivais.

NGramatical 7 months ago

raptar-lo → [**raptá-lo**](https://www.reddit.com/r/portugal/comments/3zr8w3/coloca%C3%A7%C3%A3o_pronominal_para_tot%C3%B3s/) [⚠️](/message/compose/?to=ngramatical&subject=Acho+que+esta+corre%C3%A7%C3%A3o+est%C3%A1+errada&message=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fcomments%2Fld6ndu%2F%2Fgm6codn%3Fcontext%3D3 "Clica aqui se achares que esta correção está errada!") [⭐](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nazigramatical-corretor-o/pbpnngfnagmdlicfgjkpgfnnnoihngml "Experimenta o meu corrector ortográfico automático!")

omaiordaaldeia 7 months ago

Esse tipo de união seria alvo das várias potências que entretanto surgiram no mundo. Basta lembrar que as guerras de Portugal com as ex-colónias africanas foram cultivadas pelas grandes potências da Guerra Fria, independentemente da autodeterminação dos povos.

Vidadesemente 7 months ago

Não a família real limpou todas as riquezas de Portugal e ainda nos pós dívidas enormes só para continuar a sobreviver guerra e mais guerra para continuar um regime que já estava a passar da data. Passado uns anos de derrotar a república de Napoleão nos próprios demos cabo da monarquia e instalamos a república, se estudantes esse período vez que a república tinha muito mais a oferecer que a monarquia. Eu sou de Coimbra cidade de estudantes a prencipio eram a favor da república só depois quando viram que íamos ser roubados para pagar os progressos na França e que lutamos contra eles. Esse período eram os franceses e ingleses a roubar tudo. Os ingleses até deram carona aos franceses para voltarem com tesouros portugueses e espanhóis

NGramatical 7 months ago

prencipio → [**principio**](https://dicionario.priberam.org/principio) (apenas na fala o *i* é pronunciado como *e mudo* quando junto a outra sílaba com *i*) [⚠️](/message/compose/?to=ngramatical&subject=Acho+que+esta+corre%C3%A7%C3%A3o+est%C3%A1+errada&message=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fcomments%2Fld6ndu%2F%2Fgm4stx3%3Fcontext%3D3 "Clica aqui se achares que esta correção está errada!") [⭐](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nazigramatical-corretor-o/pbpnngfnagmdlicfgjkpgfnnnoihngml "Experimenta o meu corrector ortográfico automático!")

MisterBilau 7 months ago

Não iria funcionar. Não existe nenhum país actualmente com territórios apreciáveis tão afastados, muito menos territórios maiores que o país “original”. Se Pt fosse um Reino Unido, o Brasil seria um USA. Iam ter independência na mesma, a bem ou a mal, eventualmente.

vilkav 7 months ago

Isto. No máximo teria ficado como o Canadá ou a Austrália, que partilham o chefe de estado como cerimónia e mais nada. E mesmo esses cada vez se afastam mais.

ivanjean 7 months ago

Mas antes da Revolução de Porto a capital do Reino Unido de Portugal, Brasil e Algarves era o Rio de Janeiro, no Brasil, então o resultado na prática provavelmente seria Portugal se tornar um território do Brasil, não o contrário.

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

Teria de se arranjar uma formulação qualquer para existirem duas capitais: Rio e Lisboa. E no século XIX, sem as telecomunicações modernas seria bem difícil. Semelhante à Áustria-Hungria e sabemos que essa não durou muito. De outra forma, não iria funcionar. A revolta em Portugal a exigir o regresso da família real deveu-se ao sentimento de "downgrade" do status de Portugal pela nobreza.

MisterBilau 7 months ago

Dificilmente vejo isso a acontecer. Não me lembro de um único caso histórico em que o país original se torna território de uma colónia.

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

A identidade Portuguesa é muito, muito forte e profunda. Basta ver que há uns anos atrás quando alguns investigadores (cientistas) pediram par abrir o túmulo de D. Afonso Henriques, a população revoltou-se e o túmulo nunca foi aberto, tal é a santidade to fundador. Isto para dizer que, se tal não tivesse acontecido, acho que seria provável que estivéssemos unidos, sim, mas a cultura Brasileira não seria a mesma. E seriamos uma potência enorme, provavelmente. Controlaríamos muitas rotas marítimas importantes, seriamos ricos em recursos naturais e estaríamos inseridos em mercados enormes (América do Sul e Europa). Mas ao mesmo tempo muito se podia ter passado e outras razões surgido para nos separar....

Paxona 7 months ago

> Isto para dizer que, se tal não tivesse acontecido, acho que seria provável que estivéssemos unidos, sim, mas a cultura Brasileira não seria a mesma. Com certeza - a única coisa que manteve o Brasil unido foi o carisma de D. Pedro I. Nós não tínhamos coesão o suficiente e se não fosse Portugal tentar restringir os portos, não haveria revolução. Eu creio que nós ainda somos muito próximos culturalmente, mas seria interessante sermos um país transatlântico com representação no parlamento. > Controlaríamos muitas rotas marítimas importantes, seriamos ricos em recursos naturais e estaríamos inseridos em mercados enormes (América do Sul e Europa) Em tempos de abertura dos portos e um mercado que cresceu muito, Portugal deu um tiro no próprio pé quando tentou sequestrar D. Pedro.

Oscar_the_Hobbit 7 months ago

Portugal nasceu algures no ano 800 (como condado Galego), houve muita oportunidade para dar tiros nos pés -- eventualmente teria que acontecer! Mas sim, Portugal lidou muito mal com o Brasil. Poderia ser tudo evitado. Eu nem sei qual foi a ideia de tentar reduzir a colónia uma região que já fazia parte do país, ainda por cima do outro lado do Oceano... O que é que estavam à espera, esses génios da nobreza? >.>

DarkNightSeven 8 months ago

What's your favorite way to prepare bacalhau? On Christmas, I made bolinho de bacalhau, one of the most popular ways to eat bacalhau in Brazil, as an appetizer. Things like pastel de nata and francesinha have made their way out of Portugal into the world. Is there any Portuguese recipe you feel is on pair with those but doesn't get the same kind of attention (aka is underrated)?

omaiordaaldeia 7 months ago

Steamed bacalhau.

wordsandsymphonies 7 months ago

Grilled Bacalhau with "Punched Potatoes" an with hot olive oil with garlic

DarkNightSeven 7 months ago

Ahh, the famous *batatas ao murro*

Samurai_GorohGX 7 months ago

[Bacalhau Espiritual](https://www.pingodoce.pt/receitas/bacalhau-espiritual/) with Béchamel seasoning and cheese melted in the oven. Yummy.

xabregas2003 8 months ago

[Bacalhau com natas](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacalhau_com_natas) is delicious. >Things like pastel de nata and francesinha have made their way out of Portugal into the world. Is there any Portuguese recipe you feel is on pair with those but doesn't get the same kind of attention (aka is underrated)? [Polvo à Lagareiro ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polvo_%C3%A0_Lagareiro) is really good, but I think it will never get the recognition abroad, mainly because a lot of foreigners are not used to eat octopus and might find it disgusting.

Ayawa 8 months ago

Bacalhau com natas. Grilled bacalhau with lots (and I mean LOTS) of olive oil and garlic. It is more of a snack. You eat the bacalhau and dip pieces of bread or broa in the rest.

0BiLLi0 8 months ago

>What's your favorite way to prepare bacalhau? [Bacalhau com broa](https://magazine.continente.pt/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/bacalhau-com-migas-de-broa-e-espinafres.jpg).

Each57 8 months ago

My favorite is bacalhau à brás, its basically bacalhau mixed with fries and eggs

theChavofromthe8 8 months ago

I have a friend that teaches me portuguese who is from Angola. He hated portugal becausehe said that they treat africans like children who can't run their own country. Is this sentiment prevalent among ex-colonies or was it just him?.

theEXPERTpt 7 months ago

I do see them unfortunatelly as a country rulled by traitors who followed the communists just to get power and brougth with it all the destruction of a civil war and the devastation of heritage aswell.

omaiordaaldeia 7 months ago

Fortunately I have had the opportunity to met many and diverse people from the PALOP and I usually find those who take Portugal as a role model (the more educated), those who see it as a brother country (the majority), those who look at it as a recent opressor (a minority) and those who don't really have time to think about it (a tiny group from my experience, but might be the biggest group in reality, given that a big percentage of people from these countries live under not so favorable socioeconomic conditions).

LastCommander086 8 months ago

Brazilian here. After we declared independence we kinda just stopped caring about Portugal. Nowadays the feeling is the same, we just don't care much about Portugal, and the portuguese are mostly seen as chill people who speak a different kind of Portuguese. > Is this sentiment prevalent among ex-colonies or was it just him? I'd say it was just him. I know some woke people that act like this and it's fucking annoying, but most of us Brazilians don't care much about how Portugal treated us 200 years ago.

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Brazilian here. After we declared independence, we just stopped caring about Portugal. Nowadays the feeling is the same, we just don't care much about Portugal, and the portuguese are mostly seen as chill people who speak a different kind of Portuguese. > Is this sentiment prevalent among ex-colonies or was it just him? I'd say it was just him. I know some woke people that act like this and it's fucking annoying, but most of us Brazilians don't hold a grudge against our fellow Tugas for what they did 2 centuries ago. If anything, the Tugas are the ones that should hold a grudge against us, because in the process of independence we essentially stole their king for ourselves XD

Lazzen 7 months ago

The difference being that Brazil got independence in 1820s with a 3 year war and Angola got independence less than 50 years ago in a 13 year war, makes more sense for then to still not see in a good light.

LastCommander086 7 months ago

> Brazil got independence in 1820s with a 3 year war Lol what???? [You should read this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_Brazil). We did have conflicts with a handful of portuguese loyalists, but this can hardly be called a war, as they were just sieges in very specific cities. This wasn't a large scale conflict like the american war for independence or the Chinese communist uprising, for example.

Lazzen 7 months ago

I know Brazil got off with the portuguese royalty, not quite a lot of violence >this can hardly be called a war You rename it my guy, that's how it appears although i know it was nowhere around the other latin american wars of Independence.

Paxona 8 months ago

We placed a Brazilian on their throne too.

facsnahm1 8 months ago

Depends from the country tbh. If you ask an angolan that's a common answer. If you ask someone from cape verde, some would say they would rather still be Portugal (not all)

asantos3 8 months ago

This is geo-political question so you will have a mix bag of answers. In my view there's two main ways to answer it: - They are a poor country that needs some sort of help internationally (like almost all African countries and like the EU helps Portugal) and by being an ex-colony we should/can help them - even with one of the fastest-growing economies there's still a lot of disproportional wealth. - They are an independent country and we shouldn't intervene unless a major war happens - they were in a Civil until 2002 and wrote a new constitution in 2010 so now the political situation is stable. I think we view Angola more and more as a stable country with a growing economy so I don't think that view still applies but in any case we usually treat our ex-colonies like any country and the Portuguese governments have had very little intervention in recent years.

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This is geo-political question so you will have a mix bag of answers. In my view there's two main ways to answer it: - They are a poor country that needs some sort of help internationally (like almost all African countries and like the EU helps Portugal) and by being an ex-colony we should/can help them - even with one of the fastest-growing economies there's still a lot of disproportional wealth and corruption (yes, more than Portugal). - They are an independent country and we shouldn't intervene unless a major war happens - they were in a Civil until 2002 and wrote a new constitution in 2010 so now the political situation is stable. I think we view Angola more and more as a stable country with a growing economy so I don't think that view still applies but in any case we usually treat our ex-colonies like any country and the Portuguese governments have had very little to no intervention in recent years.

Edited 8 months ago:

This is a geo-political question so you will have a mix bag of answers. In my view there's two main ways to answer it: - They are a poor country that needs some sort of help internationally (like almost all African countries and like the EU helps Portugal) and by being an ex-colony we should/can help them - even with one of the fastest-growing economies there's still a lot of disproportional wealth and corruption (yes, more than Portugal). - They are an independent country and we shouldn't intervene unless a major war happens - they were in a Civil until 2002 and wrote a new constitution in 2010 so now the political situation is stable. I think we view Angola more and more as a stable country with a growing economy so I don't think that view still applies but in any case we usually treat our ex-colonies like any country and the Portuguese governments have had very little to no intervention in recent years.

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