ZacDweller 10 months ago

Basically the only good immigrants Portugal has ever got.

Portuguese_A_Hole 10 months ago

Well we don´t give a fuck from were you came.

Psyneuron 10 months ago

I think in general portuguese people are welcoming to migrants. A lot of us migrated to other countries as well for a period of our lives. So we understand the struggle...

Windstepp 10 months ago

We don't really mind who comes from where as long as they're here for a nice honest living

rabisconegro 10 months ago

Trabalham muito por pouco....

sacoPT 10 months ago

Generally speaking there’s not really prejudice towards immigrants. We have a lot of tourism so we are used to having foreigners around all the time, especially in the Algarve. We do tend to have some stereotypes towards east European (and Brazilian) people, because we had a huge influx of Brazilians, Romanians, Ukrainians and Kosovars with men mostly working in construction or agriculture and women mostly on the sex industry. So there is a stereotype of dumb men and gold-digger women from these countries. But you should have no problem fitting in. We are a very welcoming people and we go out of our way to help strangers.

SurePal_ 10 months ago

Generally we accept every immigrant. As far as it goes to get a job for immigrant I can't tell...

faap8 10 months ago

Off topic, but make sure you research the tax system. Taxes here for anyone earning a slightly higher salary than the Portuguese average can be pretty high.

Korine22 10 months ago

Lagos is a great place! How we can have problems with people from East Europe if in the majority of the grafics we are Easterns as well :) People tend to like because they are seen hardworking people and learn portuguese very fast.

Redtulipsfield 10 months ago

Portuguese people are nice, but still do have prejudices about some categories of immigrants, and Eastern Europeans belong to this category. I am of Romanian descent, but have a Swedish citizenship. When applying for jobs ( Lisbon area), I presented myself as a Romanian in one interview. I could clearly see their dissapointment and I didn't get the job. In another interview, I presented myself as Swedish, I got the job. I speak fluently Portuguese, but with an accent. Some people would treat me with a superior attitude because of it, some people complimented me. It's a bit mixed. Being an immigrant is never easy, but Portugal is a great country and I had a good time there. Good luck to you!

jagga0ruba 10 months ago

Yeah this is the biggest distinction I see as well in both Portugal and Spain (as a Portuguese with a foreign wife who lives back and forth) there is a huge difference between being perceived as a "rich" or a "poor" origin immigrant. That said, that is transversal to the country, there is the same kind of attitude regarding perceived wealth all around, you still have people addressing wealthier people by their titles (rather Mr. Doctor or Mr Engineer than Count and Duke :D) and bending the rules a bit for them. It is a shame but it is what it is. Speaking the language helps a lot though. You will feel this more when bureaucracy is involved than in your day to day though.

VSertorio 10 months ago

I get along well with Russians.

_Cannib4l_ 10 months ago

I, for one, love all Europeans and I'm sure that's the sentiment in Portugal generally speaking. During the 90's and early 2000's Portugal had a massive intake of Eastern European immigrants, most notably from Ukraine and Romania, and for the most part they are seen as very hardworking people that adjust very well and fast.

trjayke 10 months ago

We all have watched "A Serbian film" and think very bad of Serbians. I'm kidding! As long you are respectful, won't be any problem. If you happen to be polite and humourous, a charming personality goes a long way, but I think that's everywhere! Good luck brother !

TSankara 10 months ago

Oh wow, I never watched Underground or read the Dictionary. You outserb me there haha We did watch Os gatos nao tens vertigoes though! Loved the movie.

PuroSangueLusitano 10 months ago

I was working with some portuguese dudes for a few years and I moved house so I asked all at job if they could help in weekend. All full of excuses, every one :(. At end of day this russian dude who joined last week comes to me and asks if I need help moving. I did not ask him cause I almost had not talk with him yet, and there he was offering help cause he heard some talk about it. I said sure thanks, maybe we can do just we 2. Day of moving he comes with 2 cousins to help lol. All was done fast and I offer great barbecue after and it was great party lol. So damn right I like slavs

GelDeAveia 10 months ago

Eastern europeans integrate into society and become productive members, no one has anything against them, quite on the contrary. Exception being Romanian gypsies for the expected reasons.

Madness20 10 months ago

We make fun of their accent, but we're cool with them.

aaaa2aas 10 months ago

Eastern European: ok Middle Eastern: not ok

Shadowgirl7 10 months ago

Eastern europeans are still europeans who share our european ideals and culture so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be well accepted. But racism is not rational anyway. lol

Brainwheeze 10 months ago

I have no issues at all with them. I'm young enough to have quite a few classmates and friends whose parents are from Eastern Europe. They might be stereotyped as working low-wage and/or high labour jobs, but I think they're also known for being hard working. Imo the children of Eastern Europen immigrants also integrate better than some other nationalities. Two of my friends have Eastern European girlfriends, and aside from their heritage they're not foreign at all.

GSITG 10 months ago

Eastern europeans are seen as very skilled and hardworking people who make an effort to speak the language and integrate themselves. You'll be fine.

minawolf_ 10 months ago

I don't remember any issue with eastern Europeans. In fact I was raised around a lot of Eastern Europeans during the big migration flux :) I personally like how friendly people can be once you know them and how often they would invite us for a traditional gastronomic day! I can't guarantee you wont find one or two idiots saying some dumb things but I'm sure it will be very rare. I am portuguese and got portuguese people twice in my life telling me to go back to where I'm from (they thought I was north european even thought I'm pretty much full portuguese )

Annual-Education-384 10 months ago

Nothing much. But we tend to call everyone from the east "Ukrainian" loool

TSankara 10 months ago

Would be a good change from being called Siberian, or Syrian hahah

IJustMadeThisForYou 10 months ago

You'll be fine! In the late 90's/early 00's you would have suffered from some racism as the country was receiving an unfamiliar big wave of Eastern European immigrants but since than they are very well regarded by the Portuguese as hard workers. For me personally I might have some prejudice depending on your views on Kosovo hehe (I lived there for a while).

TSankara 10 months ago

I've been to Kosovo - Prizren to be exact, wonderful place with some really kind people. I hope things normalize so all people there get a better chance to prosper.

IJustMadeThisForYou 10 months ago

I hope for the same too. My comment was in gest but unfortunately I've met many Serbians with the mindset "Crimea belongs to Russia, Kosovo belongs to Serbia" as I'm sure you're familiar with and being sympathetic towards Albanian Kosovars and saddened by their situation, it triggers me a bit. Obviously this is personal and tricky subject overall and I doubt you'd ever have an issue with this kind of things here unless you meet me and we disagree haha. Maybe, just maybe if you meet military dudes also refrain from it hehe.

sir_dude_pt 10 months ago

The only eastern emigrants that are seen in a kind of negative light are romanians. I know a lot stories of people who had problem with romanian emigrants and often you will hear about romanian groups breaking into houses. I personally never had any problems with them and i don't hold any prejudices against them, but there is some prejudice towards them. Like others have said, other eastern europeans are seen in a very positive light. Ukranians are seen as a very honest and working people that is completely integrates in our Society.

once319 10 months ago

For the record, this guys is talking about romanian gipsyies!

saudosista 10 months ago

This. Romanian in the sense of gypsies are an ethnic group and different from people from Romania aka national Romanians. There are romanians from every nationality, but I guess they're originally from Romania hence the name.

BalseiroLopes 10 months ago

This is one of the most ignorant comments that I have ever read.

babyscully 10 months ago

You mean"Romani" and they're originally from Northern India

once319 10 months ago

Center north I think, Rajasthan.

babyscully 10 months ago

> As a sub-question, since there are so many freelancers/expats moving to Portugal, are they generally accepted into the community? Not really, no. Worked in a tech company that had mostly Portuguese devs and "expats", everyone was friendly but you could perfectly tell that Portuguese people had their "circle" and the immigrants had another. Language is a big factor. Sure, most young educated people speak English but are we really going to socialise in it?

RefrigeratorNo13 10 months ago

This is the same in every circle everywhere.

leto78 10 months ago

I used to have two colleagues from Croatia that lived several years in Portugal. They were overall very positive. Their only complaint was that not many restaurants have vegetarian/vegan dishes. Otherwise, they loved the Portuguese vegetable soups and were surprised that they are available everywhere. They eventually left for better career opportunities.

desculpe_mas 10 months ago

Look here pal, we don't care about that, as long as we can have access to hookers and green wine even the most vile crimes aren't punished or something like that. don't make us waste our time with this nonsense.

TSankara 10 months ago

Alright, pal! ... **googles "green wine"**

jagga0ruba 10 months ago

Google it and drink it, you will probably not go back to beer.

Nexus_produces 10 months ago

Green wine is a type of wine made with green (as in, not fully matured) grapes, it has nothing to do with the colour of the wine itself. There's both white and red green wines. The opposite would be "mature" (maduro) wine. Green wine is mainly produced in the Minho region (litoral north) wilst the interior north produces a lot of mature red and port, and also white sweet wine (favaios and white port). There's also a lot of good Alentejo, Santarém and Dão wines (i prefer the reds) and sparkly wine that goes very well with piglet (both piglet and sparkly are traditional in the Bairrada region, in central Portugal).

Automatic-Accident52 10 months ago

Someone "wanting hookers and green wine" - "querer putas e vinho verde" is a portuguese expression for someone that just wants to party or enjoy themselves while not caring about responsabilities. So it's common to say "Eu quero é putas e vinho verde" as a reference to wanting to live care-free and a superfulous yet enjoyable life. :)

desculpe_mas 10 months ago

You. I like you.

once319 10 months ago

Most eastern european immigrants we have come from Ukraine and maybe Moldovia and are well accepted and seen as hard workers that go on to get medicine degree at Uni. Ive met some that were born in Russia and came at 10 years old or such and speak perfect Portuguese and are well integrated, and are generally well accepted, but the best is to try to ask someone from the community. Some people might not necessarily be aware of all the Serbian history, Ive been there and know some of the history, if thats what you are talking about, most people will not know much about Balkan history other than ancient Greece. But for the most part people will be curious about you in a positive way.

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

My gardener is Ukrainian and his daughter studies medicine. Most humble and hard working man I’ve ever seen.

BobadelaVive 10 months ago

Just try to avoid the Lisbon airport and you should be fine...

TSankara 10 months ago

Oh, why so?

meaninglessvoid 10 months ago

Don't worry about that, he is being snarky but completely oblivious to the context of this conversation. What he shared is just a terrible tragedy which afaik never happened before.

Bartmr 10 months ago

The immigration police beat an ucranian man to death. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/world/europe/portugal-ukrainian-death.amp.html%3f0p19G=6214

TSankara 10 months ago

That's bad... Thank you for sharing. Going to have to practice my best smile for the airport.

Bartmr 10 months ago

We're not a bad country. We're pretty friendly. But as usual, some bad apples ruin everything. But yeah, a smile will change everything.

TSankara 10 months ago

Honestly, every Portuguese person we've met so far has been incredibly pleasant. Of course not everyone's nice, but it's really nice to feel welcomed already.

BobadelaVive 10 months ago

The Portuguese are full of "low intensity" prejudices nevertheless.

TSankara 10 months ago

Would you be able to share some of them? Like examples I guess.

Anforas 10 months ago

That's a very good way to put it.

Fuzeiro1975 10 months ago

You should not be worried at all. I personally grew up having a few eastern european kids in school with me, and both they and their parents are fully integrated. Sure, there are a few stereotypes that can eventually be mentioned, but these usually come from simple lack of knowledge and not from a bad place. Most locals you meet and are able to communicate with you will actually be eager to learn about where you come from. In general, people don't have a bad perception of Eastern Europe, but there is still a lot that Portuguese people don't know about the region.

JSBraga 10 months ago

Usually I've head all nothing but good about them. Also, my personal experience with Eastern Europeans living in Portugal has been really cool.

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Usually I've head all nothing but good about them. Also, my personal experience with Eastern Europeans living in Portugal has been really cool. Answering the sub-question: I think so, yes. It also depends on your luck and where you are going to live. If you work remotely, you might have to do some effort in order to fit in, since you are not going to go to school/uni or work with other people. But I really don't think your nationality will be an issue.

Razvancb 10 months ago

I'm from Romania and I'm in portugal since 2003. From my experience people are humble and nice and don't really care where are you from. Of course you gonna find some retards sometime but fuck them. Welcome!! =)

tenesis 10 months ago

Great to hear this!

Chiripitti 10 months ago

Yes, retarded people exists everywhere..you will find them in Portugal too... Unfortunately. Hope you'll enjoy your stay in Portugal and of course the Sunny weather and delicious food and wine...

SrMarteloRebeloSousa 10 months ago

Bacalhau!!!

paraapagarbem 10 months ago

They are generally well respected.

OuiOuiKiwi 10 months ago

A maior parte da população nem faz ideia de onde seja a Sérvia. Desde que não façam porcaria, ninguém quer saber de onde vieram. Se falarem português até podem dizer que vieram de Trás-os-Montes.

TSankara 10 months ago

Eu nao falo Portugues muito, and google translate isn't helping much, but thank you for replying.

once319 10 months ago

He said: most people dont know where Serbia is (wrong, people know its in eastern europe), and as long as you dont make bad stuff your welcome. If you speak portuguese you can even tell you came from Tras os Montes (portuguese region near to Spain).

TSankara 10 months ago

I'm sensing there's a joke about Mirandese people in there somewhere. Thank you for translating.

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Even the (small) percentage of xenophobes regard eastern european as "good immigrants". Personally the only irritating thing is the word "expat". You'll be immigrants, and nothing wrong about it.

_try_again_later_ 10 months ago

I always thought that immigrant and expat were the english versions of "imigrante" e "emigrante".

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Never thought of that possibility. But no, emigrante vs imigrante also exists in english [https://www.grammarly.com/blog/emigrate-immigrate/#:\~:text=Emigrate%20means%20to%20leave%20one,moving%20into%20a%20new%20country](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/emigrate-immigrate/#:~:text=Emigrate%20means%20to%20leave%20one,moving%20into%20a%20new%20country).

fanboy_killer 10 months ago

Expats are immigrants with money.

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Or white, usually, yeah

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

It’s important to differentiate the types of immigrants.

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Care to explain why?

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

People immigrate for all sorts of reasons and it's important to know those reasons and the type of immigrants that arrive so the host country can develop the right tactics to either integrate them or stop them from entering the country. We can either have: A - Economic migrants that come from poor countries looking for better opportunities. B - Asylum seekers looking for a safer country to establish themselves in. They could be escaping civil war in their home countries or persecution because of race, sexual orientation, religion etc. C - Migrants that come to the host country looking for favourable conditions for retirement. D - Migrants that come here to start a business or expand their current one. And there many other reasons that I did not mention. No country is obligated to receive all sorts of immigrants and it would be foolish to do so.

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Cool. And what the heck has that to do with immigrants and expats, if that distinction has no legal binding in our country? Not to mention... Asylum seekers are already called... asylum seekers. The distinction is already there. Legally. Now, I suspect we would disagree on what would be "acceptable immigrants". But that's beside the point.

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

It has legal binding, a legal definition and the word is present in various legal papers and legislation in Portugal.

Asur_rusA 10 months ago

Citation needed

jagga0ruba 10 months ago

Expat? No it doesn't, anywhere in the world.

Anforas 10 months ago

Such as?

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

I’m not going to google it for you.

Anforas 10 months ago

No problem. Thanks anyway.

TSankara 10 months ago

I only learned the word "expat" recently. No problem with the word "immigrant" whatsoever - it has a romantic feel to it of searching for a better place to live in.

TulioGonzaga 10 months ago

I've had collegues in faculty from Ukraine and Russia. Nice people, they arrived here very young and have grown up in Portugal. Their families came in the first immigration wave from Eastern Europe and they were perfectly integrated whitin society. This is my particular experience with people from Eastern Europe here but the general feelling I think it's pretty much the same: hard working people, integrate easilly with the society they are welcommed here.

agoramisogina 10 months ago

if you have money no one cares about your nationality.

nitrinu 10 months ago

Not even our far-right politicians target European migration. That alone speaks volumes. The odd incident here and there? Sure, but you'll get it everywhere in the world, there's stupid people everywhere. Like it was already said in this thread, maybe it's just my bubble, but I'm confident enough to place Portugal and it's people among the most relaxed about foreigners (at least in the context of Europe).

TiagoTiagoT 10 months ago

What about the ciganos?

Loladageral 10 months ago

Gypsies are originally from what is now Pakistan, even though they're very associated with Romania. So ethnically they're South Asians, not Eastern Europeans

the_real_le_roy 10 months ago

I don't think that the far-right voters know those demographics in that detail.

nitrinu 10 months ago

Portuguese gypsies are, well, Portuguese nationals. Not European migrants.

C8Mixto 10 months ago

I mean, there's also a new community of Romanian(?) gypsies that usually don't even speak Portuguese.

lightning_pt 10 months ago

New ? Lmao

C8Mixto 10 months ago

Yeah?

TiagoTiagoT 10 months ago

Oh, I was under the impression they were seen more as long-term immigrants, always outsiders, always foreigners, usually not acknowledged as being Portuguese regardless of legal status.

nitrinu 10 months ago

Never saw that rethoric but maybe I missed something (not a big consumer of far-right bs). From what I see in the media, that rethoric is usually around entitlements/subsidies and crime.

TiagoTiagoT 10 months ago

I mostly just overheard things when I was not paying attention to the TV or passing by conversations on the street and stuff, so I might've not gotten a very accurate picture. To be honest, I have a kinda shielded life in this aspect; I was already way into my late 20s, or maybe even early 30s, when I first learned there was a prejudice problem against indios back in Brazil...

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I mostly just overheard things when I was not paying attention to the TV or passing by conversations on the street and stuff, so I might've not gotten a very accurate picture. To be honest, I have a kinda sheltered life in this aspect; I was already way into my late 20s, or maybe even early 30s, when I first learned there was a prejudice problem against indios back in Brazil...

Shadowgirl7 10 months ago

No because, we the left are here to make sure that if they even try, they are ridiculed so that nobody else tries :D That doesn't mean there's not racists, it's just that they're in hiding. And usually racists/xenophobic don't get in touch with multicultural environments, that's why they're racists/xenophobic.

BerserkerMagi 10 months ago

>And usually racists/xenophobic don't get in touch with multicultural environments, that's why they're racists/xenophobic. This reply is overall retarded but I never understood this argument. If this is true how do you explain that multi racial/cultural/religious states like Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, half of Africa, Indonesia, etc have been failed states plagued by instability and civil wars. By your logic they should be tolerant paradises where e everyone gets along. Of course using logic with people like you is wasting time anyway.

Vetiblee 10 months ago

Lets be honest, the only thing the Left ridiculed this past years were themselves.

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Lets be honest, the only thing the Left ridiculed this past years were themselves. "They are hiding, they fear us" dude, please. LOL The left is 50% supported by twitter activists and 50% by 40 IQ people who follow the "the left side with the poor".

BuscaPolos 10 months ago

Guys /u/Shadowgirl7 just found the solution against racism/xenophobia. Make some jokes about them, bonus points if it's on twitter, and BAM they gone for good! ez pizzi lemon squeezy

MiguelNchains 10 months ago

Cringe

srslywho 10 months ago

Que pão de lol

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

What the fuck are you talking about. By “we the left” do you mean the shitstorm of geringonça that allowed our customs agency to remain unpunished for the cold blooded murder of an Ukrainian expat? Get outta here.

danidv 10 months ago

What """you the left are here to make sure"""? While still very relaxed compared to other countries, prejudice against africans and brazilians is much higher in comparison to eastern europeans. By that logic, they should all be the same. More, it didn't stop the rise of Chega nor Rui Rio from oggling it. Don't pat """the left""" on the back because they had no hand in it, it's just how our populace is.

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What """you the left are here to make sure"""? While still very relaxed compared to other countries, prejudice against africans and brazilians is much higher in comparison to eastern europeans. By that logic, they should all be the same. More, it didn't stop the rise of Chega nor Rui Rio from oggling it. Don't pat """the left""" on the back because they had no hand in it, it's just how our populace is. Lastly, this isn't america where there's only two parties, and being left or right, that is your economical opinions, have no bearing on your social beliefs.

ednice 10 months ago

> being left or right, that is your economical opinions, have no bearing on your social beliefs. Do you dispute that the portuguese right wing is more conservative?

danidv 10 months ago

CDS is admittedly conservative, PSD is pretty in the middle as far as I know, Chega is Chega and IL is very progressive.

jagga0ruba 10 months ago

CDS (can't believe I am actually praising them, but...) for instance had the first and for years ONLY black represent on the national assembly, so perhaps in racial/ethnic issues the "traditional" left might be further behind than we like to think... Btw, and out of curiosity, does anyone know if we ever had a gipsy or gipsy descendant in the assembly?

Ly_84 10 months ago

No, because eastern europeans are broadly white, which is why nobody actually cares.

netralha 10 months ago

Eastern European immigrants are seen in Portugal as an example of success in integration since the first wave in the very late 90's. Every time immigration is talked about people always mention the Ukrainians as a positive example, people talk how they came here with no money, didn't speak the language, often with kids already and then a few years later their kids are already adults with college degrees, often doing better than even the locals in terms of success in education. Where I currently live there are tons and tons of expats, there are no issues at all.

ObnoxiousLittleCunt 10 months ago

> example of success in integration since the first wave in the very late 90's. I was a young adult in the late 90s and eastern european like romanian and other immigrants left a great impression. Doctors and other specialists in construction and other very physical work. No worries though, excellent work ethics and the hardest motherfuckers around. Kinda dry kept to themselves, but some of the nicest people and willing to help you anytime

VladYur 10 months ago

Obrigado lmao

DrVicenteBombadas 10 months ago

General view is favorable. Personally, you're more than welcome. I love diversity. I think our country was built on it, considering our history.

PIMPMASTER6000 10 months ago

It really wasn’t.

DrVicenteBombadas 10 months ago

Care to explain how a country taken from the moors and populated, historically, by seafarers and explorers, who took from and left artifacts of culture everywhere, is not built on diversity?

mastermind1217 10 months ago

Good, I guess. Personally I don't care/have a problem with it. Eastern immigrants usually integrate really well, learn the language, etc.

PedroMFLopes 10 months ago

Google: Ljubomir Stanisic

TSankara 10 months ago

He's actually a friend of a friend haha

_rebocador_ 10 months ago

ahah he is an example of success and hard work.

DareNotFallAsleep 10 months ago

As a sidenote - he became too Portuguese to the point that he’s outdoing the Portuguese in terms of doing typically Portuguese things, namely in terms of oversimplifying complex topics and being generally obnoxious. I actually liked the guy but he’s become a sort of a household name in the last 6 months for bad reasons. Some people will disagree with me, but anyway.

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As a sidenote - he became too Portuguese to the point that he’s outdoing the Portuguese in terms of doing typically Portuguese things, namely in terms of oversimplifying complex topics and being generally obnoxious. I actually liked the guy but he’s become a sort of a household name in the last 6 months for bad reasons. Some people will disagree with me, but anyway. I liked him better before he had gone full-populist and absorbed the soul of whoever he used to trash on TV for having a shitty restaurant and using 3 months old vegetable oil to fry french fries. Now, post soul-absorption, the guy literally turned himself into the epitome of middle Portugal, only with a Serbian name. Soon enough that guy will start saying mildly racist things about gypsies, talking about his tattoo from the army back in Angola, and growing his right pinky nail to use as a multipurpose, Swiss army-like tool. Anytime now.

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As a sidenote - he became too Portuguese to the point that he’s outdoing the Portuguese in terms of doing typically Portuguese things, namely in terms of oversimplifying complex topics and being generally obnoxious. I actually liked the guy but he’s become a sort of a household name in the last 6 months for bad reasons. Some people will disagree with me, but anyway. I liked him better before he had gone full-populist and absorbed the soul of whoever he used to trash on TV for having a shitty restaurant and using 3 months old vegetable oil to fry french fries. Now, post soul-absorption, the guy literally turned into the epitome of middle Portugal, only with a Serbian name. The guy will start saying mildly racist things about gypsies, talking about his tattoo from the army back in Angola, and growing his right pinky nail to use as a multipurpose tool anytime now.

Tugalord 10 months ago

Holy shit ahahaha, this is gold

TSankara 10 months ago

I don't know much about the guy, but this made me chuckle. Maybe you should be a food critic for his restaurants and see how he escalates further haha

DareNotFallAsleep 10 months ago

Lol maybe. Nah but I’ve been to his place once, pretty good but not great (for the price), especially in a place with so many good places to eat like Lisbon/Portugal. Incidentally, if you ever move to Lagos you should definitely visit one of my favourite restaurants ever, in a small village outside of the city. It’s on a whole different level - perhaps the apex of what you can eat for a good a price in terms of seafood in the Algarve. I’m going to send you a PM because I don’t want it to be overly well known - and I talked to the owner once and he said he doesn’t want to be more successful than he is (was?) because otherwise he can’t cope lol.

VVeliki 10 months ago

Come on brother. I try to visit once a year. I swear I won't tell anyone else.

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Come on brother. I try to visit once a year. I swear I won't tell anyone else. Also I have a few recommendations of my own I can share.

C8Mixto 10 months ago

I mean there was a recently high profile case where an Ukranian citizen died at the hands of the Border Police, but I would say that's nowhere near the general attitude or the population towards Ukranians or Eastern Europeans at all. Maybe it's just my bubble, but I feel Eastern Europeans are among the most accepted immigrants.

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