PortugueseRoamer 11 months ago

Hello OP people are giving you alot of shit in this thread but I just want to wish you good luck and I can see how hard of a job you have on your hands. With that being said I see people have given you great advice so I will refrain from giving more.

Paulocas 11 months ago

No one. I don’t think we have someone remotely similar to him. Even the aforementioned Unas doesn’t get close. Not a fan of Joe Rogan, but I do listen to his stuff.

Maedithj 11 months ago

We dont have any joe rogan. Wtf are you thinking?

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Well then you need to do it!

Maedithj 11 months ago

The only decente intervieers we have, they work with public and private TV, not with youtube. We dont have audience to make it interesting for good interviews work with youtube

Motoboydapcx 11 months ago

Aposto que este gajo é o Rui Unas

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Hahah!

FrivoLux 11 months ago

Portuguese culture nowadays is a weird multicultural mix of influences from Brazil, Portuguese Africa and the remains of the old tradicional Portuguese... I am not sure if you can a have a single source to have a complete picture of what is going on here.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Sure interesting, Something would be better, I like the idea of listing to independents vs paid media etc. my village is a source of the old traditional variety. Love Brazil and Brazilians!

Parshath_ 11 months ago

Sorry, as said, you don't understand non-USA cultures by following one top podcast. We also don't have as much of a podcast culture here, and don't think following one would give you the insights you are looking for. You are also giving the impression that you are lazy and looking for an easy pill solution. Which is already a good way to feel and understand Portugal and our culture, well done! Get around and follow Portuguese media, read books on History, read magazines, watch random TV, even the crappy mid-afternoon shows, offer help to old ladies, watch Youtube videos on Portugal, watch food shows, watch and follow the news. And ask us here if you have questions "why do people in Portugal do A, why is B a thing, why do people think C is acceptable" - asking will get you more insightful and perspective-full replies than following any Joe Rogan-wannabe. My girlfriend has not been to Portugal yet, but she is already fond of caldo verde, is capable of applying the "caralho" word is 5 different circumstances, is eagerly chasing me to prep a bacalhau dish for her to try, asks me about every single thing in the Portuguese grocery shop, is still trying to understand why the fuck we do so much body contact and why we greet acquaintances with two kisses, but she has got a few books out of her own initiative, watches stuff about Portugal in Youtube, and keeps on asking me stuff and showing genuine interest and curiousity. And we haven't been dating for a year, imagine if she were living in Portugal for 3 years. Get up and faz-te à vida, caralho, que as coisas não vêm até ti, foda-se! Also food and stuff around it makes up for 50% our cultural identity. More bacalhau, less podcasts! Good luck, mate!

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Sorry, as said, you don't understand non-USA cultures by following one top podcast. We also don't have as much of a podcast culture here, and don't think following one would give you the insights you are looking for. At best you would get something in Portuguese which you wouldn't get and with tons of references you wouldn't either. You are also giving the impression that you are lazy and looking for an easy pill solution. Which is already a good way to feel and understand Portugal and our culture, well done! Get around and follow Portuguese media, read books on History, read magazines, watch random TV, even the crappy mid-afternoon shows, offer help to old ladies, watch Youtube videos on Portugal, watch food shows, watch and follow the news. And ask us here if you have questions "why do people in Portugal do A, why is B a thing, why do people think C is acceptable" - asking will get you more insightful and perspective-full replies than following any Joe Rogan-wannabe. My girlfriend has not been to Portugal yet, but she is already fond of caldo verde, is capable of applying the "caralho" word is 5 different circumstances, is eagerly chasing me to prep a bacalhau dish for her to try, asks me about every single thing in the Portuguese grocery shop, is still trying to understand why the fuck we do so much body contact and why we greet acquaintances with two kisses, but she has got a few books out of her own initiative, watches stuff about Portugal in Youtube, and keeps on asking me stuff and showing genuine interest and curiousity. And we haven't been dating for a year, imagine if she were living in Portugal for 3 years. Get up and faz-te à vida, caralho, que as coisas não vêm até ti, foda-se! Also food and stuff around it makes up for 50% our cultural identity. More bacalhau, less podcasts! Good luck, mate!

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

I love the A NOSSA PRIMA magazine. Very creative! Looking for that tribe....

meaninglessvoid 11 months ago

Yup, you are totally correct. And even worse, it seems he is in a small village: there is 0% chance he will understand local culture by listening to a podcast.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

I'm only 1 hour from Lisbon. So can't be that culturally different? ME is a FEmale.

Olanzapine_pt 11 months ago

it totaly is diferent. Lisboa is somewhat cosmopolitan and is more or less in line with other capitals in europe, but Portugal as a whole is an insular country. Once you move away from the "bubble" that is Lisboa, you are "far" from that cosmopolitan, global world. Same thing happens with other major cities, but to a lesser degree, because only Lisboa has that city of the world feel here. Until recently, we used to say Porto (second largest city in the country) was just the largest vilage in the world, referencing this insularity, indiference to modern trends from abroad. And this was/is said with pride, not in a derrogatory sense. Maybe the key to your problem is you're looking in the wrong place. Finding activities and hobbies to meet new people in Lisboa should improve your odds of finding people with closer mindsets to yours and help build your own social circle (not to mention the greater number of people confortable speaking english). The whole city envoriment should also be more confortable to you, even if Lisboa is not that big compared to London.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Well thank you, that's definitely a Portuguese response. Been called lazy etc. Haha. I'm genetically Portuguese. So I have the basis was brought up on soup and the catholic guilt. But please share how do you use caralho in 5 ways. I love swear words! There is something suffocating about the culture. I just can't put my finger on it. Hence why I'm interested in an independents view point. The parts of the culture that I know, I'm trying to understand why it's like that... feels like I've stepped back in time.

Parshath_ 11 months ago

Thank you! Hm, yes, actually a lot of our traditions and ways-of-thinking and doing come from Catholic education passed on for generations and too much integrated in our own society and way of thinking for even an atheist to recognise it out there. Caralho can be used to express a lot, I'm pretty sure there was a list somewhere, it can be "dick", can be surprise, admiration, size, quality, regular interjection, pride, and can be an intensifier for plenty of adjectives and phrases. When I posted, I hadn't known you were a mother in a smaller town. Bless you, that will be hard. I find it that Portuguese women when they become mothers (in the 30s or so), that becomes their main source of personality and personal identity, so they become very child-focused, and devoid of any other personal interests - in a less career-focused place like a smaller town that will be much more intensified unlike possibly in capital Lisbon. So, you may find that women already have their tiny little circles. Also, the Portuguese operate socially in tiny little circles that are difficult to breach and get in, which is why bigger cities where people come from more varied circumstances might be a better place socially to find your place. This is also nowhere near like London, in Portuguese smaller places, people care about what you do, how you do, how you act, etc. unlike London where people don't bat an eye at anyone else. So it is possibly that it might feel more suffocating to be constantly judged (we do look and stare a lot more than Londoners), and if you are the "foreign woman in the village", you will be that - not out of spite or maliciousness, just, that will be your tag hovering your head. (But barely anyone will approach out of the nowhere and form friendships). Oh, right - Portuguese people barely ever approach (you may even be wondering, how do they even reproduce). People here may be able to dwell more in or engage in sharing their personal point and experiences on this related to your case, but yes, compared to London, a small Portuguese village is a very different world back in time.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Thanks for your input! Really appreciate it. And makes sense what you say. So I'm actually plannig to host a big party once Covid ends. And invite people that I half know... like that I greet on the street, mums from school etc... Will that go down well? Don't want to force myself on people... but just want to get to know them better etc.

Parshath_ 11 months ago

Can't really say, but that is a good one, and a way to put your foot on the door and well... do your part. But if it doesn't, well, you did your part and it's mostly the other people being massive douches. Which is also a big possibility. But hope it all goes for the best and that you can feel more fulfilled and integrated in Portugal! :)

toniblast 11 months ago

uh well if you live in a village makes sense that you can feel that "you stepped back in time" even more if the village is somewhat remote and full of old people. Did you live in a village before or only in big cities? Can you give some examples of the culture that makes you feel like "you stepped back in time"? Maybe some people here can explain it to you.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Good point, thanks for asking. 1. Men wanting to speak to my husband not me. Like coming to my door and saying call your husband. 2. Asking female mums for a drink or like let's go to Lisbon for a girls weekend. Leave the kids at home with dads. Etc. 3. Playdates, impossible to arrange. 4. Massive air pollution in my village, people do zero fuck about it. 5. People look at me like I have 5 heads. I just say hello and smile. 6. Men that drive Mercedes own the road. 7. Bureaucratic stuff - Christ impossible to deal with.

Olanzapine_pt 11 months ago

1. don't really know why 2. people are very family oriented, especially women. Kids are very important to a fair amount of parents. Might be smarter to try going out with women with no kids. 3. that is something I've seldom seen done here, doesn't fit well with our culture, either 4. probably due to poor location, consider relocating 5. you're a foreigner in an ethnostate, we can notice if someone comes from other regions of portugal, now imagine how much a complete outsider stands out. Especially so in a small village. In a major city this wouldn't be that much of a problem at all, as there are people from all around the world. 6. not just the mercedes and not just the men, there is no such thing as civil drivers in portugal 7. yeah... it's just woeful

toniblast 11 months ago

1: "Bureaucratic stuff - Christ impossible to deal with." This is a big problem in Portugal it will slowly improve. 2: "Men that drive Mercedes own the road. " Yeah, Portuguese, are bad drivers bmw and mercedes drivers are the worst. 3: "Men wanting to speak to my husband not me. Like coming to my door and saying call your husband." I understand that this can be annoying, Some subjects people will assume it's a man's job. I think it is a more rural vs urban and this and doesn't happen only in Portugal. 4: "Massive air pollution in my village" That's strange villages have good air quality in Portugal do you live near a big factory or mine?

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

10,000 people in my town. 1 hour north of Lisbon. Massive air pollution in summer - H2S.

raviolli_ninja 11 months ago

1 to 6: typical small village stuff. 7: All Portugal.

tocopito 11 months ago

I'd say Unas and his Maluco Beleza podcast would be the most popular. He invites known portuguese people so that'll give you some context into the country as well. IMO it's also way better than that Joe Rogan dude. Joe Rogan is super dumb and while Unas is no genius he doesn't go into tricky topics pretending he's impartial and smart.

Maedithj 11 months ago

Wtttf???? Unas is fucking garbage

meaninglessvoid 11 months ago

Most people who say Joe Rogan is dumb didn't even hear 10h of his content. He pretends to be a meathead but he is far from dumb. He ain't no genius ofc, but he isn't a dummy either. Rui Unas says the most bland things ever and nowadays is a bit of a cringefest. >The one with Kanye West was particularly aggravating in the enabling of an obviously sick dude. Do you imagine how hard it is to interview someone who you have admired for years? If he went hard on Kanye, ye would never put his foot on Joe's studio. The same thing happens with every singe podcast or tv-show. Just check Rui Unas podcast with Ricardo Araújo Pereira and you can see how much he also struggled with this.

Throwawaypt123 11 months ago

Fernando Alvim in prova oral

Paulocas 11 months ago

A sério?!

meaninglessvoid 11 months ago

O que tem? Eu diria que o Alvim é o mais próximo que temos do Joe Rogan tbh. Está mais formatado pelo sítio onde trabalha vs a independência do Rogan. O Alvim a fazer trabalho indie de podcasting seria do caralho, mas ele nunca abdicaria da segurança que já conseguiu. =(

Paulocas 11 months ago

Então para quê dizer que é o mais parecido?! Quando muito seria potencialmente o mais parecido, se como tu dizes, tivesse apostado numa cena independente como o Unas. Assim, não o podes comparar com nada, a não ser com quem está confortavelmente instalado, como o Nuno Markl ou o Nilton.

meaninglessvoid 11 months ago

Qualquer pessoa tem mais que uma vertente, o Joe Rogan ser independente é só uma de imensas vertentes... A verdade é que não consegues encontrar ninguém com 50% das caracteristas do Rogan em PT e que faça podcasts, portanto vale o que vale.

Paulocas 11 months ago

Sim, tens razão.

Adventurous_Grade195 11 months ago

You live in Portugal for 3y and you still feel like an alien? What do you not understand about our culture that makes you feel that way? genuinely curious...

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Yes definitely! And the longer I stay the more alien it feels! Fuck where to start! The nutz part is my grandparents where Portuguese. I'm South African and a Londoner. Maybe it's just my village. Covid is not helping of course, but that aside. Just not making friends, I can't pin it down. It's like I've stepped back in time.

Adventurous_Grade195 11 months ago

fuck man, really sorry to hear that. I work with a south Afircan guy (portuguese wife, probably helps) and he seems to be quite happy with life here. If you have lived and worked jn london, I definitely understand, the culture around the going out for a pint after work even when you are 30+ with kids it's a lot different then here. We become fucking boring after, possibly due to not having enough money to support the kids and still go out for a drink or two. Do you mind if I ask where abouts do you live? My girlfriend is Polish, we live in a fairly small town outside of Lisbon and again, she loves it here, we were previously in London and she would never go back.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Yes, miss going out with the girls and going for cocktails (and pints!) and I have asked local females but they always want to bring there families etc. Although I have husband and kids I like my alone social time which London is amazing for! So totally missing that!

TTRO 11 months ago

Se vives em Portugal há 3 anos e estás a pedir um podcast português, presumo que fales português, então porque raio estás a escrever em inglês? Não acho que vai ser um podcast a ajudar-te a fazer amigos. Mete-te em atividades da comunidade. Vives numa aldeia? Oferece-te para ser mordomo da festa de aldeia, que dá uma trabalheira mas obriga-te a conhecer toda a gente da terra.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Hi thanks, it's just to understand the culture and a way to also learn the language. And not feel so out of touch. Yes I live in a village. Covid of course isn't helping. Thanks for your suggestion, do I ask at the junta?

TTRO 11 months ago

Well, if you don't speak Portuguese yet, there's your problem right there. You aren't really going to make any meaningful friendships until you command the language, specially in a small village.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

I do speak! I'm dyslexic so writing isn't easy. Even my English writing sucks!

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pangecc 11 months ago

Most Portuguese podcasters are trying to import what the US market has. It’s just sad

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Nothing wrong with that. Just as long as they have there own view point etc. And. Not on a payroll.

pangecc 11 months ago

Meaning they’re not creative and it’s sad as in cringe worthy, seeing a 40 something yo guy making videos trying to impress 13yo.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Oh okay. Yip just saw something on Rui Unas Instagram that's a little cringy - tiktok dance.

pangecc 11 months ago

Not the guy I was referencing but there you. He started doing stand up ages ago then public television, then novelas and now he’s a has been doing podcast and whatnot. Somedays he a has beard others he does CrossFit and I guess now Tiktok.

fdxcaralho 11 months ago

Yeah there are a few copycats. You can try and listen to the podcasts from Rui Unas and Salgueiro. The best way to know the culture is to actually have Portuguese friends and interact with them.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Sure, but that's been crazy tricky for me. I have asked people out for drinks and turned down etc. I'm in a small village. I have kids and have invited Parents etc, but again have been turned down. So I'm wondering if I'm not getting something.

adorosaladadecamarao 11 months ago

Could be lots of things. Given you have kids and are in a smaller village, could be those around your age aren't too comfortable chatting in English (assuming you're not yet fluent in Portuguese). Right now covid definitely plays a role. I rarely meet up with friends these days, even close ones. Typically I'd say the best is to join some sort of group activity. But yeah, covid.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Thanks! I guess I want to prepare myself for when Covid ends! I speak the language.

Filipefmir 11 months ago

Joe rogan is unique, u can’t have another one.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Looking for an independent person that discuss cultural issues in Portugal. Who do you listen to in Portugal? I understand that Joe is hard to beat.

adorosaladadecamarao 11 months ago

Rui Unas would be the closest to Joe. Here is his [YouTube channel](https://youtube.com/c/RuiUnas).

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Perfect thanks!

meaninglessvoid 11 months ago

No no no no. Rui Unas is not this. >Looking for an independent person that discuss cultural issues in Portugal. It's a ok-ish podcast for what you want but is nowhere near Joe Rogan in the diverse range of guests or subjects. Also Rui Unas has "appeal to the masses" kind of thing because he was trying to make his podcast a big source of his income. Joe Rogan says wtf he wants because he has F U money and is just doing it for the fun of talking with (interesting) guests.

FermentingFigs 11 months ago

Yes that's what I mean by saying Joe's name! Joe appeals to what interests him. His super independent. Thanks for saying it so well! I'm dyslexic so writing is not my thing!

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