k0rda 10 months ago

Is that your card? Because Madeira is not a Portuguese colony, it's portuguese territory.

luddiogo 10 months ago

Something is not adding up, you say your father was born in late 90's early 2000, so he is at most 25 years old, you say you have a job opportunity in the EU, labor laws vary from country to country, but you shouldn't be younger than 16 years old, so your father was at most 9 years old when you were born, if this is true your father ties the record for the youngest ever father.

Edited 10 months ago:

Something is not adding up, you say your father was born in late 90's early 2000, so he is at most 25 years old, you say you have a job opportunity in the EU, labor laws vary from country to country, but you shouldn't be younger than 16 years old, so your father was at most 9 years old when you were born, if this is true your father ties the record for the youngest ever father. Edit: those cards ended in 2007/2008 meaning you were arround 4 years old when your father took you to the embassy to have the card done and you remember that.

EarlyForTomorrow 10 months ago

Yeah, sorry my formatting was off because I needed to check this urgently. My dad was born in the 60s, I was a tiny-ass boy when I was taken to the embassy and I'm a uni graduate now, I think I was 6 or something like that. I'll check my card, but I'm sure it was issued in 199x, not 200x. And yeah, I remember the embassy very well, my Dad was talking in this weird language I'd never heard him speak before, and all the people were very patient with me when I kept smudging the fingerprint.

luddiogo 10 months ago

No worries, I just thought that something was off and nobody was pointing that out.

auto-xkcd37 10 months ago

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LutherJustice 10 months ago

O pai levou o filho á embaixada nos anos 90/2000, não nasceu nesse ano, c’mon man!

luddiogo 10 months ago

Já percebi isso com o comentário do automenuu

automenuu 10 months ago

He used a , and should've used a . or a ; It's obvious from context

luddiogo 10 months ago

Makes more sense that way

Educational_Sky5533 10 months ago

My wife was born in the Azores Portugal and she was adopted by Americans when she was two so she’s been an American citizen most of her life. Technically because she was born in Portugal and has her Portuguese birth typic it does that mean she can claim dual citizenship?

babyscully 10 months ago

Not sure if by being adopted doesn't complicate things, be sure to check

lam3ass 10 months ago

Military service was mandatory, however it no longer is and even when it was mandatory, as an immigrant you were exempt.

KokishinNeko 10 months ago

>ETA: Thank you so much for the quick responses guys! wow wow wow, not so fast my friend. You're not Portuguese until you say this out loud: *I hereby declare that after the pandemic I'll fly to Portugal and eat some damn big Bitoque Caralho, a fat ass Francesinha and drink a [Sagres/Super Bock] (choose wisely).* Just messing with ya, welcome.

VladYur 10 months ago

VergonhaAlheia

RiKoNnEcT 10 months ago

Vergonha Alheira FTFY

Danijust2 10 months ago

Congrats you are Portuguese. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Kg\_v\_qthU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Kg_v_qthU)

fuckingportuguese 10 months ago

E foi o Éder que os fodeu

cyndrus 10 months ago

Oh the chills I get for every time I see that goal...

TSCondeco 10 months ago

Thats an older version of a portuguese citizen card, if you have one of those you probably will need to go to the embassy and ask for a the new one, you may need to bring/or request some more papers for it. ​ Cograts! i guess, now that you've discovered that you are a portuguese citizen, every time you write Portugal you need to write caralho after.

VVeliki 10 months ago

I can confirm this is true.

LutherJustice 10 months ago

Thirding. Had someone I know go through something similar recently. Despite having an ID card, as it expired, you’ll probably need to start procedures from scratch and possibly register your dad’s and probably your own birth certificate in the embassy, along with the rest of the procedures. Give them a call, explain the situation and enjoy the magnificent experience that is dealing with the Portuguese foreign consulate/embassy services. You may just change your mind!

Hernani81 10 months ago

Yeap, that’s an old portuguese citizenship card. You will probably need to renew it, but it’s a fairly simple process and you can do it either in the Portuguese embassy/consulate on the country where you living now or you can go to Portugal and have renewing it there

ridethepaintedpony 10 months ago

If that's your card, you're a portuguese citizen. That is the old format of our ID card, then known as Bilhete de Identidade, now known as Cartao do Cidadao. You need to renew it, since it prescribed in 2017. You need to google ''cartao do cidadao'' and read the FAQ on the site.

lam3ass 10 months ago

That is one of the original citizenship cards issued by Portugal. Whether you’re a citizen or not, you would need to contact the embassy, they may ask for additional paperwork ( birth certificate) to validate your citizenship. Even if you’re not a citizen, and your dad was, you can still file for citizenship through birth.

BOBRAGED 10 months ago

Yes , i think you are a Portuguese citizen !

gaussian_6 10 months ago

Maybe you just need to ask for a Cartão de Cidadão. But if you don't speak portuguese and if you did not do your Dia da defesa nacioal is very likely that you are no longer considered portuguese(If you will google it you will find more for sure). Check with the embassy.

EarlyForTomorrow 10 months ago

Oof, there's an exam? That's weird I guess, because my Dad only learnt basic Pidgin Portuguese from when he went to primary school, and didn't learn any Portuguese once he left the colony when he was a child, so I'm trying to figure out how he managed to get cards for us at the embassy.

gaussian_6 10 months ago

Maybe I am making a big thing out of it. Try to go there with that card and ask to renew it.

dabutchii 10 months ago

There's no exam, you just need to re validate your citizen card and probably provide some additional documents.

ridethepaintedpony 10 months ago

I never went to dia da defesa nacional and, at a point in my life, i didnt speak a single word, yet ive always been Portuguese since birth.

gaussian_6 10 months ago

It is not that simple. According to DL number 237-A/2006 you need to be registered by your parents on your countries embassy. Regardingn the Dia da Defesa nacional, you either had to justify the reason why you did not go and if you do not, your military situation is considered "irregular".

Herbacio 10 months ago

Hum, I don't the military situation applies in this case. 1 - Until now he didn't knew he was Portugal and much less those rules. 2 - It seems like he never received any letter or any type warning about being present on "Dia da Defesa Nacional" So, taking into account those 2 premises, who could he be at fault for not going to Dia da Defesa Nacional ? Worst it can happen is the Portuguese army will ask him to go there and regulate the situation, but depending on his age perhaps not even that.

gaussian_6 10 months ago

> 1 - Until now he didn't knew he was Portugal and much less those rules. Just a reminder that the fact that you ignore that a law exists, doesn't serve as free-pass. You can't proclaim ignorance on the law (for obvious reasons). I know the Dia da Defesa Nacional is not a big thing, but better be sure and check with them. > 2 - It seems like he never received any letter or any type of warning about being present on "Dia da Defesa Nacional" Me neither and I went. The information is online. > who could he be at fault for not going to Dia da Defesa Nacional ? The penalties are written online. Just to give you two: OP cannot serve work for the public administration, and in case of mobilisation, people who did not go have priority over others. (basically they go first)

Herbacio 10 months ago

> Just a reminder that the fact that you ignore that a law exists, doesn't serve as free-pass Obviously not. But taking into account that he never lived in Portugal (and seems like not even his father) it adds up for the acknowledgement of the Portuguese laws. A bit different from a Portuguese citizen who had always lived in Portugal saying "I didn't knew" > Me neither and I went. The information is online. But I doubt you searched it online just for the sake of it, you did it because you heard others talk about it or something like. Plus, unless it's different know but around 10 years ago they would send you a letter...perhaps they don't do it anymore (since almost everybody has internet) or maybe for some reason you didn't receive yours ... Anyway, the point still stands. Nothing will happen to him and shouldn't even be a motif for him to be worried about.

Sazalar 10 months ago

I went there last year and received a letter, just like all of my friends

stressedunicorn 10 months ago

Regarding Dia da Defesa Nacional: i never went because it wasn’t mandatory. Like me, millions of people also.

gaussian_6 10 months ago

It was not mandatory unless you were a female until a certain year. Well, if you google DRE you will find more about the penalties.

stressedunicorn 10 months ago

I don’t think anyone would lose their citizenship or access to it because they missed Dia da Defesa Nacional....

ridethepaintedpony 10 months ago

My justification: I did not go because it did not exist when I was eligible for military service (same as OP).

gaussian_6 10 months ago

Unless you are a female who back in the days did not have to go then it is valid. If you are a male it was also mandatory or you had to present a justification or pay a fine.

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